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Title: killed in action 1918
Post by: kitman64 on Tuesday 04 March 14 21:36 GMT (UK)
I would like to find place of death "action" of a private harry nutt 88859 killed france and flanders, october 21st 1918. he was in the royal welsh fusilliers.

kitman64
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: groom on Tuesday 04 March 14 21:43 GMT (UK)
Have you got the information from the CWGC? 

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1747244/NUTT,%20HARRY%20THOMAS
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: kitman64 on Tuesday 04 March 14 21:46 GMT (UK)
yes groom

kitman
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: nanny jan on Tuesday 04 March 14 21:47 GMT (UK)
Hi,

If you follow the link given by groom and clink on the link to the memorial, you will find some background information.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: kitman64 on Tuesday 04 March 14 21:55 GMT (UK)
many thanks for that groom, nanny jan should be more observant and not rush headlong

again thanks
kitman64
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: MyFamilyTree on Tuesday 11 March 14 16:22 GMT (UK)
Also, if you know what battalion within the Royal Welsh Fusilliers that he served, it might be worth looking at the Unit War Diaries at The National Archives in Kew: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/war-diaries-ww1.htm

You would then be able to see what was happening with his unit at the time around his death.

Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: cati on Tuesday 11 March 14 17:32 GMT (UK)
You might find this interesting:  it's the First World War diary of a young man who served in the 10th and 13th Battalions of the RWF from 1916 to 1918.

www.culpitt-war-diary.org.uk

Cati
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 11 March 14 18:06 GMT (UK)
Start by looking at The Long Long Trail (www.1914-1918.net).

The details for the 13th Battalion, Royal Welsh Fusiliers states:
13th (Service) Battalion (1st North Wales)
Formed at Rhyl on 3 September 1914 by the Denbigh and Flint TF Associations, but transferred to the Welsh National
Executive Committee on 10 October 1914. November 1914 : came under orders of 128th Brigade, 43rd Division
at Llandudno. 28 April 1915 : formation became the 113th Brigade, 38th (Welsh) Division.
Moved to Winchester in August 1915 and landed in France in December 1915.

Using the links on the top right of the page, navigate to the 38th (Welsh) Division.

In 1918 they took part in the following conflicts:
1918
The Battle of Albert+
The Battle of the Bapaume+
The battles marked+ are phases of the First Battles of the Somme 1918

The Battle of Havrincourt^
The Battle of Epehy^
The Battle of Beaurevoir^
The Battle of Cambrai^ in which the Division captured Villers-Outreaux
The battles marked^ are phases of the Battles of the Hindenburg Line

The Battle of the Selle**
The Battle of the Sambre**
The battles marked** are phases of the Final Advance in Picardy

Now it's just a matter of which battle was ongoing on the date he died!
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: cati on Tuesday 11 March 14 18:20 GMT (UK)
It looks like it's going to be the Battle of the Selle (17-25 October 1918)

Cati
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 11 March 14 19:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Cati! ;D

I was going to do the look-ups myself, but I have had internet problems (on-and-off) since about 16:00! :(
Came back on about 10 minutes ago.
Title: Re: killed in action 1918
Post by: emfranky on Monday 27 April 15 23:01 BST (UK)
Hi, I have been looking in to the Battle of Selle as my Great-Gran's uncle died there on the 17th October. He was serving with the Fourth Army, however, I have found some information that, might, be of interest to you. There is a diary from a man called Capt. Arthur Impey, he was with the V Corp of the Third Army (where I believe the person you are researching was): http://www.hellfirecorner.co.uk/tucker/tuckercontext.htm
Here, there is a specific reference to the 113th Division on about the 8th October “During that day’s attack Impey had noted that ‘our friends the Welshmen seemed to be holding up the right flank as usual’. This was a reference to the 38th Welsh Division, specifically 113 and 115 Brigades.”

I hope I'm right in saying that the Royal Welsh Fusiliers 13th Battalion, part of the 113th Brigade, were in the 38th Division of the V Corp in the Third Army. They were fighting North of the town name Le Cateau (now renamed Le Cateau-Cambrésis). A book, by General Archibald Montgomery, was written about the last 100 days of the war for the Fourth Army, the V Corp is mentioned a few of times as they fought very close together. Here's the link to the online book, it can be downloaded in a PDF file: https://archive.org/details/storyoffourtharm00mont
Along with this book, there was set of maps occupying it, the one you will probably find best is this one: http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/cdview/?pi=nla.map-vn100316-s15-sd&rgn=0.0947164948,0.0021905805,0.8679123711,0.6593647317&width=1200&cmd=zoomout

If you want to see other maps from the book, where it says: “Search > Item > Interactive Map Part 15”  Click "Item" and you will be able to select any of the other maps from the series.

I hope that this information is of use to you,
Emfranky.