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Title: george smith northamption
Post by: pennysteve on Friday 28 February 14 13:30 GMT (UK)
Hi
Need some help with my tree George from northamption 1816  1888 ??? married a Rhoda smith. 1810 1892 they back came from northamption and then travelled to midlands. It is George family I need help with I found on census sulgrove northamption with Rhoda no idea of his parents.
Help please Rhoda parents is moses smith  1766 1845 and lucretia smith 1778 1856. and I have come to a stop with moses parents. very hard to find.

thanks :D
thanks
Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: king otg on Tuesday 11 March 14 12:51 GMT (UK)
You say that you have found George and Rhoda SMITH in the Northamptonshire census but I can find no trace of them in 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871 or 1881 in that county.

You need to say more so that helpers can go over your work and progress it.

TL
Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: seahall on Tuesday 11 March 14 20:35 GMT (UK)
Hi.

Welcome to Rootschat pennysteve  :)

There is a tree on Anc*** which seems to be in-correct.

I guess the family are on Rg10/2929 Pg. 10 in the hamlet of Orton nr
Wombourne, Staffs and were Sulgrave comes into the picture.

Sandy
Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: seahall on Tuesday 11 March 14 20:46 GMT (UK)
On the 1861 they are here.

Rg9/2058 Pg 48, Level Woodside Dudley, Staffs.

They are a bit hard to trace back from there.

Sandy

Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: seahall on Tuesday 11 March 14 20:50 GMT (UK)
There is a baptism for Rhoda at Newnham on the 19 Feb 1815 to parents
Moses (who was noted as gipsy) & Lucretia     

Sandy
Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: seahall on Tuesday 11 March 14 20:58 GMT (UK)
From the Northants Marriage Indexes.

Aston Le Walls
24-Feb 1794
Moses SMITH otp to Lucretia SMITH otp

Sandy      

Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: king otg on Saturday 15 March 14 12:25 GMT (UK)
Here are the relevant SMITHs

STF Sedgeley All Saints bp16/1/1841 Nancy d/o -/Rhoda, of Ettingshall

STF Sedgeley All Saints bp16/1/1841 Rhoda d/o -/Rhoda, of Ettingshall

STF Pattingham bp12/3/1843 Valentine s/o George/Rhoda, bsk.mkr of Towcester NTS

STF Kinver bp23/3/1847 Emanuel s/o George/Rhoda, bsk.mkr, trav

STF Kinver bp19/3/1849 Silence d/o George/Rhoda, trav’g bsk.mkr

STF Pattingham bp29/1/1851 Ephraim s/o George/Rhoda, bsk.mkr of P

STF.DUD Kingswinford bp2/3/1853 Enoch s/o George/Rhoda bsk.mkr Gipsy enc’d Cole Lane

1861WOR-2058/103/48 George (40) cl.pg.mkr, Rhoda (40) +9

1871STF-2929/59/10 George (55) bsk.mkr, Rhoda (42) +8
1871STF-2929/59/10 Valentine (25) bsk.mkr, Merchina (BUCKLAND) (23) +3

1891STF-2307/9/11 Enoch (38) trav’g hkr, Polly (40) +1
1891STF-2455/99/33 Ephraim (35) pg.mkr, Elizabeth (29) +5

1901STF-2762/9/10 Emmanuel (40) bsk.mkr, Joanna (50) +1

They are linked to other SMITHs at the same parishes and census extracts so it is worth following them up.

The full piece number, for example, 2762/9/10 is made up of the piece number (2762) the folio number (9) and the page number (10). Sometimes, when looking at the original image, the foliio number is unseen because it occurs on the previous page and this leads to mistakenly calling the folio number the 'page' number.

There is nothing wrong with saying 'Ancestry'. If it is the source then you can quote the source without breaking any laws. Also, transcribing a census entry is not a breach of copyright although it is annoying if it is not transcribed accurately.

TL
Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: seahall on Saturday 15 March 14 17:41 GMT (UK)
Hi again pennysteve.

Here are the full details for some of the censuses for George and Rhoda.

1861 Rg 9/Piece 2058/Folio 103/Page 48, District 27, Level Woodside, Dudley, Worcs

1871 Rg 10/Piece 2929/Folio 59/Page 10, District 4b, Orton, Wombourne, Staffs

1881 Rg 11/Piece 2941/Folio 15/ Page 21, District 1, Pedmore, Worcs

Sandy

Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: seahall on Saturday 15 March 14 18:59 GMT (UK)
Just found this pennysteve.

Might help you a bit.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ygp/

Sandy
Title: Re: george smith northamption
Post by: king otg on Tuesday 18 March 14 12:23 GMT (UK)
SMITH baptisms
OX Epwell bp5/5/1795 Salavico s/o Moses/Lucretia, travs

WKS Tysoe bp9/9/1798 Vesse s/o Moses/Lucretia, travs

NTS Marston St Lawrence bp7/12/1800 Mary Ann Freery d/o Moses/Lucretia, vagrants

NTS Moreton Pinkney bp10/3/1805 Comfort d/o Moses/Lucretia, travs

OX Alkerton St Michael bp22/3/1807 Jasper s/o Moses/Lucretia, (noi)

OX Tadmarton bp19/2/1809 Clarence s/o Moses/Lucretia, (noi)

OX Tadmarton bp23/4/1811 Ansloe s/o Moses/Lucretia, travs, gipsies

WKS Brailes bp28/2/1813 Sophia d/o Moses/Lucretia, lab of B

OX Mollington bp15/4/1821 Arnold s/o Moses/Lucherette, bsk.mkr of Sulgrave

BDF Dunton bp19/5/1839 Silvanus s/o Moses/Lucretia, of Brington NTS

I have not yet seen the originals for Christopher, 1797 Wolford WKS; Thomas, 1812 East Sterndale DBY; or Rhode, 1815 Newnham NTS, although they seem to fit in nicely.

SMITH burials
WKS Tysoe br22/12/1846 (80) Moses, of T
WKS Tysoe br9/12/1856 (80) Lucretia, of Middle T

SMITH census
1851WKS-2076/629/13 Racoratia (Lucretia) [née SMITH] (72) pauper +4

SMITH Other
JGLS(3)24:126 Jasper SMITH relatives, Moses/Lucretia, by Winstedt

TL