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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: martincarver on Thursday 27 February 14 18:57 GMT (UK)
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A previous post (in RootsChat?) has indicated the birth of my great great great grandfather, Hugh Carver, as:
"born in 1791 Ballynahinch C D Ireland"
Would anyone have additional information as to which Ballynahinch this would be? I have other information that suggests Hugh Carver's grandson lived in Tipperary for a spell but it is unreliable.
Can anyone assist?
Martin Carver
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=679157.msg5237751#msg5237751
Link to Hugh Carver on Co Down board
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Hello Martin, the following list shows townlands of that name in Ireland as a whole, with one in South Tipperary, and two in the north Riding of the county.
Place Name County Province Type Barony Civil Parish Poor Law Union
Ballynahinch Galway Connaught Townland Ballynahinch Moyrus Clifden
Ballynahinch Down Ulster Townland Kinelarty Magheradrool Downpatrick
Ballynahinch Armagh Ulster Townland Oneilland West Kilmore Armagh
Ballynahinch Tipperary, S.R. Munster Townland Clanwilliam Ballygriffin Tipperary
Ballynahinch Tipperary, N.R. Munster Townland Owney and Arra Kilcomenty Nenagh
Ballynahinch Tipperary, N.R. Munster Townland Ormond Lower Ballingarry Borrisokane
Ballynahinch Limerick Munster Townland Coshlea Knocklong Kilmallock
Ballynahinch Kerry Munster Townland Trughanacmy Ballymacelligott Tralee
Ballynahinch Clare Munster Townland Tulla Upper Kilnoe Tulla
Ballynahinch Offaly (Kings) Leinster Townland Kilcoursey Kilcumreragh Tullamore
Ben
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Thanks, Ben. I have a similar list from the "Alphabetical Listing of (Civil) Parishes..." publication.
There are two things curious about this:
1) I am unclear how to interpret the Ballynahinch placenames in each case - in some instances, they are clearly town names. And in others, what would they be? It seems to me that a birth record would be referring to the town of origin? (ie, not the barony or some other type of location). What do you think? I am ready to visit these Ballynahinch's but want to choose the most likely ones.
2) Not sure what this means, but your list and mine, though very similar, are just a little different. I wonder what to do about the differences.
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3) Do you know if there is any other way to explore the likely home town of Hugh Carver, perhaps through the RootsChat network? If I could simply get a solid reference to him being in one location or the other (estates? newspaper article?), then this might suggest the Ballynahinch that is referred to in his birth record.
Thanks for your interest in this. Much appreciated.
Martin
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Martin, as far as I can make out, the churches you will need to check are Emly, Nenagh, and Borrisokane, luckily none of them are a million miles apart, I'm sure there must be a Church of Ireland directory to elicit, as to which unions these parish Churches are part of, so many have been closed over the years, others amalgamated, as the Protestant congregation in many rural parts has shrunk, some smaller Churches now only have a service on a monthly basis with the service being rotated, I would advise that you ring the Church of Ireland County Diocesan office ahead of any visit, I wonder if you might know in what Capacity the Carver family were engaged in within the county of Tipperary, be it Military, Rectors, Land owners, or in business re-Commerce.
Ben
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Hi Ben,
Hugh Carver appears to have been involved in commerce - the census indicates that he was a provision dealer later in his life, perhaps while in England (where he ended up living his life and dying).
Are these three towns you mention the only Tipperary ones with Churches now? How did you select these three?
Do you know how to find where the older cemeteries are (for the 1700s and early 1800s) in this area? What I find online is a little confusing.
I am on the road today and will pass through these places so will have a look around. If you have other ideas, let me know as I will be online when I can.
Best - and again, thanks.
Martin
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i have a hugh carver in my family tree he was a provisions dealer, he had 3 children to 1st marriage , i think she died ,and my tree is descended from one of his daughters hannah carver in his 2nd marriage. i have tried to trace his irish roots and had no luck. Trying to confirm the ballynahinch place of birth for hugh carver as well.if i remember correctly he lived in shropshire at one time,