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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Shonagh on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:15 GMT (UK)
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Is there anyone who can help me with this please?
Baptism I would like to see an entry for Francis Hadley Jul/Aug/Sept Stockport
Marriage John Hadley (Adley) and Mary Oct/Nov/Dec 1838
Death/Burial John Hadley Jan/Feb/Mar 1863
They were Irish Catholics
Many thanks
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Marriage John Hadley (Adley) and Mary Oct/Nov/Dec 1838
See www.cheshirebmd.org.uk - John Adley married Charlotte Fowden
Baptism I would like to see an entry for Francis Hadley Jul/Aug/Sept Stockport
You haven't given the year - it was 1837 as per freebmd. Parents marriage will be pre-civil registration as the September qtr 1837 was the first quarter post civil reg
Cheshire bmd shows mothers maiden name was Willis
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I think you missed the point. I asked if anyone could Please look at the catholic parish record.
I know that John Hadley married 3 times and I would like the info that is entered on the church record for his second wife. Witnesses etc.
The third marriage was in Hull. The first I really don't know but it was in Ireland.
For Francis, yes, sorry I did miss the year off and it was indeed 1837. I have Mary Willis with a question mark as his mother. I did not know that Cheshire bmd listed the mother's name for Francis but I have just looked and it's correct, thanks so the marriage is also correct.
Thank you for responding but I really would like the catholic records for the additional info.
My John Hadley or Sometimes referred to as John Adley I believe is not the same as the man who married Charlotte Fowden, hence the request for the PR. many catholic records are more comprehensive than the GRO records and the fact that Charlotte Fowden marriage was not in a catholic church suggests it's an unlikely match.
I have spent a four figure sum on GRO records and have had to draw the line now that I am not working.
Thanks for your help.
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I think you missed the point.
No - I didn't miss the point
This was your lookup request
Marriage John Hadley (Adley)and Mary Oct/Nov/Dec 1838
My reply was that the marriage in December qtr 1838 was not to a Mary - it was to Charlotte
Freebmd has no John Hadley marriage in December qtr 1838 Stockport only a John Adley
Marriages December qtr 1838
ADLEY John Stockport 19 224
BROOKS William Stockport 19 224
FOWDEN Charlotte Stockport 19 224
HOLLAND Margery Stockport 19 224
PEARSON James Stockport 19 224
PICKFORD William Stockport 19 224
SWINDELS Maria Stockport 19 224
WHEELDEN Elizabeth Stockport 19 224
I know that John Hadley married 3 times and I would like the info that is entered on the church record for his second wife. Witnesses etc.
So who was his second wife and what year was the marriage as there is no info about it in your post above
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Hi
The marriage for John Adley and Charlotte Fowden is available on
http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
Heather
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According to the record John Adley was only 20 years old and a bachelor when he married Charlotte Fowden in 1838 so not the correct one.
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Francis Hadley/Adley with mother's maiden name Willis is the only birth to be found in Stockport. According to the 1841 census Mary was only 30 years old at the time so I would have thought more children.
Cheshire BMD shows a Stockport death for a Mary Hadley aged 35 in 1845 so it's possible that this was the mother of Francis.
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In 1851 Frances, age out a bit showing as born 1835, and his father John are living with the Shea family in Yorkshire. There is a possible John Hadley/Mary Shea marriage in Yorkshire in Sept 1849
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
So it's possible that the Willis marriage was the second one making the Shea marriage number three and another child George 10months old.
HO107; Piece: 2360; Folio: 68; Page: 40
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Shonagh,
The only way to be certain about the parents of Francis will be to buy the birth certificate. As for the marriage.....if it was in Stockport and at a Catholic Church .... it was likely to have been at the Chapel of St Philip and St James and as far as I'm aware they are not on line. I'm not sure if Cheshire Records have the registers but it might be worth a try.
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Thank you for responding but I really would like the catholic records for the additional info.
Whilst I symapthise with the 'lot of money ' you have spent, it does pay to make use of the free sites and information availble to you .
Catholic is considered a 'non conformist religion' and as such the familysearch had not in the passed digitalised any records concentrating primarily on CoE. It is only recently that the LDS ( Familysearch) has started to look at the Methodist / Catholic records etc. so your request is unreasonaable.
You will see from the listing on this site there are numerous RC churches in Stockport, and until recent years the records were held within the Diocese.
You will need to contact the holder of the records and ask for a search which could involve more £££'s or visit the office yourself.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/stockport.html
I looked at your post thinking I could help...living in close proximity to Stockport, however it lacked information and understanding, I consider the researchers on this site who are all volunteers didnot miss the point!
Maybe if you try again with how you reached Stockport i.e census & what you are missing and why you need the info you may get more info. However admonishing Carole W who I see as a good researcher is not the way forward
For the benefit of those who have tried to help you ...
1841
HO107 113 3 Stockport
1851
Francis ADLEY can be forund HO107 2360 68 40 desc as grandson the other ADLEY family in the h/hold John ADLEY aged 60 son in law Pensioner George Adley aged 10 months. from this I cannot determine the mother of Francis
1861 RG 9 2564 11 16
has John aged 80 back in Stockport with a young wife Mary aged 42
I think you have missed a relevant point John b 1783 was a pensioner, my immed thought is Army!!!
I will leave you with that