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Title: 6th Dragoons
Post by: bman on Monday 24 February 14 17:00 GMT (UK)
I am trying to trace great great grandfather Alexander Good born in Ireland (can't trace date) who married Amelia Armstrong in 1869 in Athlone, Ireland
He was a Sergeant Major in  the 6th Dragoons , according to his son's death certificate (also called Alexander) and his three children are all born in barrack towns in Ireland. I am trying to find were he served in the army with his regiment.
If anyone can help, it would be much appreciated. Thanks
bman
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: willsy on Monday 24 February 14 19:19 GMT (UK)
Do you have these baptisms which will give you an idea of where he is and what year?

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Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: willsy on Monday 24 February 14 19:44 GMT (UK)
There is a page ref here serving 21 yrs

Alexander GOOD
Discharge date: 25 January 1873
Discharge rank: Serjt
Discharge corps: Dragoon Guards
The National Archives reference: WO121

also

Name:Alexander GOOD
Year of birth:1832
Place of birth:Daley, New Galloway, Kirkcudbrightshire
Regiment:6th (Or Carabineer) Reg Of Dn Guards

Discharged 1873 age 40, served Crimea, Turkey East Indies

He dies 4 Feb 1873, is this of any help as I see there is an Aug baptism in Ireland ?
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: bman on Tuesday 25 February 14 09:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information, it is very useful. I had traced the baptisms as each child is born in a different barracks town, but had been unable to trace his career further back or his birth.
Being a Scot is a bit of a surprise as I expected him to be Irish like Alexander junior (grandfather) who always said he came from Tipperary which is where the youngest child is born in August 1873. Which raises some questions if he died earlier!
Everything else that you mention seems to fit apart from the above. Thanks again
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Tuesday 25 February 14 12:04 GMT (UK)
A little bit of extra info, he was awarded 5 good conduct badges. He was in possesion of the Crimea, Turkish & Sudan medals, with a clasp for Sebastopol & the Good Conduct Medal. He was also a Out-Pensioner at the Royal Hospital Chelsea.
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: bman on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks again, all good stuff!
However, I have a few doubts as to this being the same Alexander Good. The Scottish birth has thrown me-why would he join an Irish Regiment ? Also his children were born in Newbridge (1870),Dundalk (1871) and Clonmel (1873) which were seemingly the barracks for the 6th Dragoons (Iniskillings) not Carabiniers. If he died shortly after he left the hospital was he wounded?
What & when was the war in Sudan?
Thanks everyone for your help
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:14 GMT (UK)
bman

If you PM me a email address I will send you the original copies, might make more sense.
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:24 GMT (UK)
6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers) were posted to Dundalk for the winter of 1870/71

(The Morning Post, September 12th 1870)
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: millymcb on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:27 GMT (UK)
Here are movements of 6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers) and also 6th (Inniskilling) Dragoons which might be useful for cross referencing with birthss, marriage and deaths

Movements of 6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers)
    1842   England & Scotland   
    1846   Ireland   
    1852   England   
    1855.08   Crimea   
    1856.05   England   
    1856.08   at sea   
    1856   India   
    1857.03   Meerut   
    1857.05.10   Sepoy rebellion   
    1859   India   
    1861.04   England: Exeter   
    186?   Brentford   
    1866   Ireland   
    1872.05   England   
    1877.12   at sea   
    1878   India   
    1879.09   Afghanistan   
    1880.10   India: Sialkot   
    1888.11   Scotland: Edinburgh   
    1893   England: York   
    1894   Aldershot   
    1899.12   South Africa

Movements of 6th (Inniskilling) Dragoons
       1841   England   
    1842   Scotland: Glasgow, Edinburgh   
    1843   England   
    1846   Ireland:   
    1851   Scotland: Edinburgh   
    1852   England:   
    <1854>   York   
    1854.05.30   at sea (embarked at Devonport)   
    1854.07.11   Bulgaria: Varna   
    1854.09.07   at sea   
    1854.09.14   Crimea   Heavy Bde
    1856.07   England:   
    1858.08.06   at sea   
    1858   India: Alipur   
    1858   Sepoy Rebellion: Bombay presid.   
    1859   Kirkee   
    1860   Mhow   
    1860   Meerut   
    1861   Kirkee   
    1867   England:   
    1871   Ireland:   
    1877   Scotland:   
    1880   England:   
        1881   South Africa   
    1882   Natal & Zululand   
        1884   Bechuanaland   
    1885   Natal   
        1890   England: Brighton   
        1894   Scotland: Edinburgh   
        1895?   England: Manchester   
        1897   Ireland: Dundalk   
    1899.10   South Africa   1 Cav Bde South Africa

Milly
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:31 GMT (UK)
6th Dragoon Guards were at Newbridge in 1870 (Freeman's Journal April 5th 1870 and other contemporary papers under the heading "Stations of the British Army" - originating I think in the United Service Journal)
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:44 GMT (UK)
Amelia Good owned a house in Lavender Lane, Clonmel - there are Petty Sessions records from late 1873 when she is trying to regain possession from a tenant.
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 25 February 14 14:45 GMT (UK)
Looks like Clonmel was the Armstrongs' home town http://www.clonmelgraveyards.com/search/public-view1record.php?id=13204
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 25 February 14 15:58 GMT (UK)
So - Alexander dies at Aldershot in February 1873, and Amelia returns to her family in Clonmel where her child is born 6 months later.

 
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: bman on Tuesday 25 February 14 15:59 GMT (UK)
Thank you all very much for all your help, it has been so much more than I expected. After looking at  all the records that have been sent to me I am now sure that he is the right man in the Carabiniers.
Thanks for the extra info on Amelia Good as well.
bman
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: bman on Tuesday 25 February 14 18:23 GMT (UK)
Yes, Shaun J it would seem so, and then Amelia dies in 1881 leaving three little orphans. I wonder who cared for them. The eldest one, Alexander junior, does come to England at some point and marries Polly in 1917
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: willsy on Tuesday 25 February 14 19:23 GMT (UK)
Pleased it was the right one :)
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: bman on Wednesday 26 February 14 18:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks all. I have now discovered great great grandad's war record and a further leg on the Armstrong family tree, which was unexpected.
Everyone has been a big help.
Title: Re: 6th Dragoons
Post by: hendog on Monday 25 November 19 21:32 GMT (UK)
Came across this thread when I was trying to find further details of a John Madge who was a private in the 6th Dragoon Guards - Findmypast British Army Worldwide Index - Private John Madge Service number 314 - 6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers) - Dundalk, Ireland 1871 - National Archives reference WO 12/393. I have various bits of info but could do with some help in confirming this John Madge as the chap I think he is. I wondered if anybody is still out there that might be able to help?
All the best
John Hendry