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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: ayrgenes on Wednesday 19 February 14 19:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi all
noticed there are many requests for lair plans for Dalbeth. So decided to draft one up, with the help of the ground-staff. I'd be happy to email copies, printable to A4 size to anyone who gets in touch. Enjoy.
Davie
ps: the print version is much clearer than this one.
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Thank you for that, ayrgenes :)
I have so much family there. Great to see the new mapping.
Monica
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Monica
thanks for the good words, I was surprised there are three sections of Common Ground. Always thought there was just the one. Makes it a bit harder now to know which one some of my relies are in. Oh well.
Davie
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Thank you very much for the map ayrgenes. I have family in St Peter's Dalbeth myself, all in the areas of common ground. I must go back to see if there are any good photos of those areas to be had.
Very helpful map.
Karen
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Hi Karen
only too glad to help, happy hunting.
Davie
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Davie,great map of St Peters Dalbeth. I too have relatives in common ground and didn't know there were three areas-wow! I have a question for you.Do you know where section 12 is as I have a relation buried with his cousin there and last time was at St Peters couldn't find it and no one around to ask.Thanks and great work,Kim
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Hi blemdookie
have added amended map, with Sect 12 on. Must have overlooked it on original, sorry all. Yes that area is quite hard to pin down, most of the others are well sign-posted. There are small concrete posts inserted into the grass along the main path, painted off-white but there are no numbers on yet. Staff say they will get round to it soon.
Anyway, sect 12 - carry on the main path from the entrance, keep to the left of the office (sign 3B) and follow path all way to the end, as path turns right at bottom =sect 12. Had a look today and not many stones in that area. Happy hunting
Davie
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Hi Ayrgenes(Davie), Thanks for the updated map of St Peter's Dalbeth. Looking at it now, I must've been in sections 3a and 3b and common ground looking for the relies as I assumed it would be close to #13. I will have to go again and have a relook. Would there be anywhere that would have a complete listing of who is buried there including those people in common ground besides the burial lists at the Mitchell as they are so hard to read. Kim
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Hi Kim
there are limited records on the ScotlandsPeople site (pay as you view), under Catholic Records, or you could always try Sharon at the Archdioscece office in Clyde St, she has been helpful to me in the past. She is the only one I know who would have complete listings. I was told recently by groundstaff they hold the past ten years records on site. There are a couple of other places that have some burials ie Momento Mori, but very limited. Contact details for Sharon: 0141 226 5898, taken from on-site office.
Good hunting
Davie
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Hi Davie, Again thanks so much for that. I will definitely try the Archdiocese as my Gilmours are proving so elusive that any scrap of info is a big help. My relies are in both the new and old Dalbeth cemeteries so this will be useful on two fronts.Thanks again. Kim
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Thanks for sharing the map Ayrgenes. Very thoughtful of you.
It just came along at just the right time for me as my next task is to check out Dalbeth for some of my relatives.
Regards Margaret
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Hi Margaret
hope it helps in your hunt, and don't forget the groundsmen at Dalbeth are very helpful if needed.
Davie
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Thanks Davie
Margaret
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Hi Davie, first time poster, long time lurker here. Many thanks for your efforts in producing the map with the three areas of common ground. In the course of my family research I have discovered several members of my family with buried in the common ground areas spanning several decades. Your maps leave me with the question; does anyone know if they filled up one area of common ground before moving to the next?
If this was the case then the follow on question would be does anyone know the year ranges of burials in each of the three sections?
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Hi
glad you found the map useful. I seem to remember when I was doing the map I asked one of the groundsman the same questions. He wasn't too sure, but thought it just depended 'on the day' sort of thing. I did intend to contact Sharon at the Diocese office, who is extermely helpful, but somehow never got round to it. Maybe now would be a good time.
davie
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Cheers Davie, I just always thought they'd fill one area before moving onto the next but that might just be the OCD side of me. It certainly would make things simpler for narrowing down which area our relatives are located in. Lets hope the Diocese office can shed some light on it.
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I have a burial record for my Great Great Grandfather John Sinclair who was buried in St Peter's Dalbeth on 8th November 1921 aged 86, he was buried in one of the three common ground areas. However unlike any of the other records I got from Scotland's People the record has the number 320 written after his place of death, on the same page eleven more people have the number 320 while others have 317, 318, 319 etc. Does anyone know the significance of these numbers, might they help identify which area of Common Ground John is buried in?