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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: indaba on Friday 14 February 14 20:11 GMT (UK)
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Please could I have some help with the date of this photo. As yet the subject is unidentified but an approximate date will give me a good starting point. Thanks in anticipation.
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Have a look at previous posts re dating photographs-- a clever RootsChatter was able to give the date when that style of beard which has a special name was fashionable.
Best of luck .Viktoria.
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:) The beard is called a Newgate Frill and was fashionable from the late 1850s for a while. This photo is a typical 1860s pose and the stamp on the back is also typical 1860s. I suspect late 1860s, because there is a backdrop, which isn't seen until late in the decade. The red design around the edges is a bit unusual. Lovely photo.
Are the outer corners square? Please always show the outer corners.
Cheers,
China
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Mmmm...Philip Joseph Lehmann was born c. 1872 Mold.
1891 lists him as a photographer in Mold aged 19.
1911 sees him as a cinematograph operator.
The cardstock on this is typically Edwardian but the backdrop is 1880's-90's. & the backstamp 1860's.
If this was a copy of an 1860's photo I would expect to see him wearing a frockcoat rather than this morning jacket which was more of an 1880's-90's style.
The clincher is that he has a separate button-hole for his watch chain which arrived late 1880's.
So putting all that together I would suggest a v. late 1880's - 1890's original.
jim
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I had a good look at that watch chain, Jim, and still don't see a separate hole.
Very odd that such an old stamp would still be in use that late.
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Thanks to Veronika, China and Jim for all their input. As Jim has stated Philip Lehmann was at 22 New Street, Mold in the 1890s - he could possibly be using old cardstock - but why would he have a stamp more typical of the 1860s ? I have now attached a photo of presumably the gentleman's wife, showing the square corners of the card, on the off chance that her dress could perhaps confirm either of the dates.
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It's not old cardstock as this didn't exist in the 60's.
Well there's not much to see in this as she's pretty much covered up & as an older lady would be conservative in style.
Her skirt doesn't have the fussiness of the 70's & is more in-keeping with the 80's & 90's.
Her bonnet called a toque was an 1880's fashion & still worn into the 90's.
jim
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Thanks again - I have decided to go with the date of the very early 1890s, based mainly on the particulars of the photographer, and I believe I have now been able to identify the couple.