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Title: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: stephrobinson on Wednesday 12 February 14 22:20 GMT (UK)

Hi All

I wonder if some kind soul could look up these marriages for me please?

20 July 1844
Nicholas Courtnell
Harriett Hayes

And

11 Feb 1821
Nicholas Courtnell
Ann Stewart

Very elusive is our Nicholas - especially as there's a second Nicholas Courtnell born @ the same time who says he was born Whitstable, Kent but seems to also have been bap in Portsea.  Most confusing.

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 12 February 14 23:00 GMT (UK)

1851 has them as Courterell - all b Portsea except Lawrence


Nicholas  52  - single stationer dockyard
Harriet 34
William 8
Frederick  6
Edward 4
James 2
Harriet 1
Rebecca  20
Lawrence Hayes   82 father in law superannuated shipwright b Deptford Kent
HO107 Piece 1657 Folio 348 Page 5

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 12 February 14 23:04 GMT (UK)

1841 as Cointnell - all b Hampshire

Nicholas 40 Blacksmith
Elizabeth  30
Henry  14
John  12
Elizabeth  10
Rebecca 8
HO107 Piece 413/3  Folio 29 Page 13

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: stephrobinson on Thursday 13 February 14 00:32 GMT (UK)

Thanks - I've found all kinds of spellings for this family!  Had managed to track them up to 1891, but having difficulty with parents because there's another Nicholas born around the same time.

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 13 February 14 08:59 GMT (UK)

Hi,

There are some transcriptions on this site:

http://www.knightroots.co.uk/transcriptions/Parishes_P/Portsea_Portsmouth_Southsea/Marriages/marriages.htm


Nanny Jan

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: stephrobinson on Thursday 13 February 14 10:04 GMT (UK)

Thanks for that - could come in useful later, but unfortunately 'my' marriages aren't there.

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: Little Nell on Thursday 13 February 14 21:02 GMT (UK)

May I ask what information are you looking for with these marriages?  The transcription that I have shows Ann's surname spelt the 'other' way - Stuart.

A Nicholas Horwood Courtnell was baptised at St Thomas Portsmouth in 1796. He seems to have died in 1867.

Nell

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: stephrobinson on Thursday 13 February 14 22:14 GMT (UK)

Hi Nell

I was hoping for witnesses names, & the fathers' names & occupations in the later marriage to Harriett.  This may help me to confirm or disprove whether the baptism is for 'my' Nicholas.

This is 'my' Nicholas who I think died in 1867
1841 Flathouse, Portsea, Portsmouth
COURTNELL, Nicholas M 40    Hampshire    blacksmith   
COURTNELL, Elizth F 30 Hampshire       
COURTNELL, Heny M 14 Hampshire       
COURTNELL, John M 12 Hampshire       
COURTNELL, Elizabeth F 10 Hampshire       
COURTNELL, Rebecca F 8 Hampshire."

"1851  Maitland Street, Portsea, Portsmouth
COURTERELL, Nicholas    Head    Married M 52 Single Stationer (Dock Yard) Portsea, Hampshire
COURTERELL, Harriet Wife Married F 34 Portsea, Hampshire    
COURTERELL, William Son M 8 Scholar Portsea, Hampshire    
COURTERELL, Fredrick Son M 6 Scholar    Portsea, Hampshire    
COURTERELL, Edd Son M 4 Scholar    Portsea, Hampshire    
COURTERELL, James Son M 2 Scholar Portsea, Hampshire    
COURTERELL, Harriet Daughter F 1    Portsea, Hampshire    
COURTERELL, Rebecca    Daughter Unmarried F 20 Tailoress Portsea, Hampshire
HAYES, Lawrence Father-In-Law Widower    M    82 Superannuated Shipwright Deptford, Kent."

And here's Nicholas Harwood Courtnell who married Sarah Wilcox in 1843
1851 19, Pearson Street, Greenwich
COURTNELL, Nicholas H Head Married M 44 Fisherman Whitstable, Kent
COURTNELL, Sarah Wife Married F 27  Greenwich, Kent."

Assuming he's 'the' Nicholas who was bap 1796, I realise the dates are slightly out, & the Kent birth throws a spanner in the works, but the 'Harwood' in his name makes me think he might be William & Susannah's's son.

Steph

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 14 February 14 21:29 GMT (UK)

An intriguing little puzzle.  I think that Ann died in 1833 - a burial is recorded in Mile End cemetery in Portsea.  She was 30.

Sorry, I can't help with the other information at the moment.  :(

Nell

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 February 14 23:09 GMT (UK)

1861 as Courtnell - all b Portsea

Nicholas Courtnell 63
Harriett 44
William   18
Frederick  16
Harriett  11
Susannah 4
RG9 Piece 634 Folio 127 Page 25

Title: Re: Portsea St Mary's marriage look-up request
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 February 14 23:39 GMT (UK)

Hi

I presume this is your problem

1.  Nicholas Horwood Courtnell  christening Date:  24 Jun 1796 
     Saint Thomas Portsmouth   Parents William & Susannah

2.  Marriage
     Nicholas Courtnell/Ann Stuart  11.2.1821 Portsea, Hampshire but 1841 appears to show wife as
     Elizabeth

3.  Marriage
     Nicholas Harwood Courtnell/Sarah Wilcox December qtr 1843 Lewisham 5 430
 
4. Marriage
    Nicholas Courtnell/Harriett Hayes 20.7.1844

We have Nicholas b 1796 Portsea on 1851/61 married to Harriet and dying in Portsea 1867 aged 71

A Nicholas Courtnell died in Blean Kent March qtr 1844 - presumably the Nicholas who married Sarah Wilcox