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Title: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: John Grimes on Wednesday 12 February 14 16:14 GMT (UK)
I need as exact a date as possible for this attached photo from the Ballybay area of County Monaghan. JG
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 12 February 14 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hi John, we'd love to help but this is literally the size of a postage stamp and impossible to see. Please scan the photo at 300dpi, give it a new file name, and repost it.

Also, please don't crop the edges off it, we need to see those. If there is any printing on the back we'd like to see that too.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: John Grimes on Wednesday 12 February 14 17:30 GMT (UK)
Here is the original scanned. I included as much of the border as would fit on the scanner. There is nothing written on the back. It is mounted on stiff paper and was brought with her by my grandmother in 1897.
Thanks
JG

Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 12 February 14 18:00 GMT (UK)
Well...how sure are you that this was brought over in 1897? This looks, from what I can see of it, to be early Edwardian.

The scan is a very out of focus one, what happened? What resolution did you scan it at?

Can you do another scan at 300 dpi please? I'm sure it would turn out better.

Cheers,
Cina
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: John Grimes on Wednesday 12 February 14 18:53 GMT (UK)
Cina
Did the last one scanned come through? At 300dpi it kept telling me the file was too big. I tried both jpeg and tif.
JG
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 12 February 14 18:58 GMT (UK)
Well it won't post a tif, that's way too big.

Whatever you did send, it posted. Can you see it? Can you make out any detail in the photo?
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: John Grimes on Wednesday 12 February 14 19:09 GMT (UK)
Cina
No, I don't see anything at all.
JG
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 12 February 14 19:10 GMT (UK)
You can't see the photo you just posted?
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: John Grimes on Wednesday 12 February 14 19:20 GMT (UK)
I can see the first one and the giant second, but not the one I tried at 300 dpi.
JG
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 12 February 14 19:49 GMT (UK)
There are only those two.

Do you have a photo that's in focus, and large enough to see?
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: John Grimes on Wednesday 12 February 14 20:10 GMT (UK)
I can see it, but it is not in good focus. I am going to try to send now a cleaned up version as a jpeg at 200 dpi, the most the system seems to allow me.
JG
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 12 February 14 20:47 GMT (UK)
Well gosh, now that we can see it, what a beautiful photo :)

Now I can see the person in the white dress is a young girl, so that puts my estimate back a bit. I wish I could see the waistline of the seated lady better...and the hairstyles are a bit ambiguous, but I would say late 90s for this.

Maybe Jim will drop in on this one  :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Can anyone date this photo from Co Monaghan, late 19th cent. (g-mother's family)
Post by: John Grimes on Wednesday 12 February 14 21:52 GMT (UK)
Cina
Yes, I do love this photo that I found only a few years ago, well on toward my 70th year. My grandmother Mary is the girl in white whom I remember only in her old age. She died in 1955. Around her are her brothers Joseph, Owen, and Patrick (in the front in the Lord Fauntleroy outfit). Her mother Catherine and father Joseph frame the group. Mary left Ireland forever about ten years after this photo was taken and six months after she saw her father die; I found his death certificate at the GRO in Dublin last year, and Mary was the informant named there. It's sad to note that once she left she never saw any of her family again. In the late 1970s my uncle, Mary's first son, visited Ireland and managed to find the grown and married daughters of  little Patrick in the photo, themselves by that time grandmothers. They knew only that they had an "Aunt Mary" and that she left for America long, long ago. By then everyone in this photo was long dead.
JG