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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lincolnshire Lookup Requests => Lincolnshire => England => Lincolnshire Completed Look up Requests => Topic started by: Snow White on Wednesday 12 February 14 04:13 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I am interested in any help by either a look up or suggestions on how I can access Bastardy records.
My 2 x grandmother Sally Stamp born 18 October 1829 St Mary's Waddingham Lincolnshire.
Mother Elizabeth Stamp
Father ?
Thanks for any help
Sylvia BC Canada
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An e-mail to the archives would be a good starting point. Link here
http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/residents/archives/
rgds
Edward
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Thank you Edward,
I have done that already.
Lucky me found the baptism record but no father.
Of course now I'm gung ho to find out who the father is.
Sylvia
BC Canada
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What were the archives able to tell you.
Rosie
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Did you ask the archives what (if any) bastardy records exist for this parish and whether this child was shown?
Edward
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What were the archives able to tell you.
Rosie
Thank you Rosie, there is no Bastardy record for Waddingham.
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Did you ask the archives what (if any) bastardy records exist for this parish and whether this child was shown?
Edward
Thanks again Edward, I did find the baptism but there are no Bastardy records for Waddingham sadly.
So back to square one, no father's name for my Sally Stamp.
Sylvia
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What were the archives able to tell you.
Rosie
The archives advised me that there are no Bastardy records for Waddingham.
I did find the baptism record but no father listed.
Thanks again Sylvia
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Shame there are no records but there are very few are in existence. I presume Sally didn't name one when she married either.
Rosie
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Shame there are no records but there are very few are in existence. I presume Sally didn't name one when she married either.
Rosie
Did you ask the archives what (if any) bastardy records exist for this parish and whether this child was shown?
Rosie, on Sally's (Sarah)marriage certificate father was recorded as John Stamp who was her grandfather's name.
Edward
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Typical, though they are often made up anyway.
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Typical, though they are often made up anyway.
What would be made up?
Sorry I don't understand.
Sylvia
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Poor Laws didn't start until 1834 and so that is when you are likley to find the several types of Bastardy Records, the only other place to look is the parish record and I have found information in those ( not transcriptions online which miss them off) You could try Links to the Past website and search and see if they have anything written on them, if they have the images of Waddington http://www.lincstothepast.com/SearchResults.aspx?cmd=type&val=img
Bastardy Bonds/Agreements determined which adult male was to support a child. Where a child was without parents, the parish would try and find an apprenticeship for them to relieve the burden on the parish funds. These can date from 1601 to 1834.
Bastardy Bond: entered into by a bondsmen and sureties to say that they will indemnify the parish to which the child is chargeable from all costs (mainly found before 1800)
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Typical, though they are often made up anyway.
What would be made up?
Sorry I don't understand.
Sylvia
The fathers name would sometimes be made up
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Poor Laws didn't start until 1834 and so that is when you are likley to find the several types of Bastardy Records, the only other place to look is the parish record and I have found information in those ( not transcriptions online which miss them off) You could try Links to the Past website and search and see if they have anything written on them, if they have the images of Waddington http://www.lincstothepast.com/SearchResults.aspx?cmd=type&val=img
Bastardy Bonds/Agreements determined which adult male was to support a child. Where a child was without parents, the parish would try and find an apprenticeship for them to relieve the burden on the parish funds. These can date from 1601 to 1834.
Bastardy Bond: entered into by a bondsmen and sureties to say that they will indemnify the parish to which the child is chargeable from all costs (mainly found before 1800)
Thank you for your input.
I have been in contact with Links to the past and there was nothing for Waddingham.
Sylvia
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Typical, though they are often made up anyway.
What would be made up?
Sorry I don't understand.
Sylvia
The fathers name would sometimes be made up
Thanks again Rosie.
Sally/Sarah's mother was Elizabeth Stamp and he father was John Stamp and Sarah (Green) Stamp..
It all becomes tangled so easily but Ill keep looking and chugging along.
Many thanks
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I have been in contact with Links to the past and there was nothing for Waddingham.
Try this images of Waddingham baptism PRs 1827 page
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Baptisms/501479.record?ImageId=198807&pt=T
they also have many other images of records too http://www.lincstothepast.com/SearchResults.aspx?cmd=type&val=img
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Elizabeth may have had another Child GEORGE Baptised 14 Aug 1831, St Andrew, Willoughton
He was Buried same Church 12 October 1831 (infant)
(FreeREG)
I see that Sally is Sarah Stamp in 1841 where she is with her Mother Elizabeth now married to Joseph Ladlow.
Elizabeth and Siblings Christenings are on FreeREG also.
In case you dont have the Marriage date of John/Sarah it was 17 May 1803, St Peter, Bottesford
Witnesses, Wm FRANKISH and William GREEN
(FreeREG)
Now Joseph Ladlow was in Willoughton in 1831 where JANE Ladlow was Baptised 12 Dec 1830 to JOSEPH/ANN
(FreeREG)
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THOMAS, 25 March 1827, Bishop Norton (Familysearch.Org)
There is a Death Reg for a ANN Ladlow, March 1839, Caistor, 14 221
Joseph and Elizabeths Marriage Reg was Sept 1839 Caistor
Trish :)
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Elizabeth may have had another Child GEORGE Baptised 14 Aug 1831, St Andrew, Willoughton
He was Buried same Church 12 October 1831 (infant)
(FreeREG)
I see that Sally is Sarah Stamp in 1841 where she is with her Mother Elizabeth now married to Joseph Ladlow.
Elizabeth and Siblings Christenings are on FreeREG also.
In case you dont have the Marriage date of John/Sarah it was 17 May 1803, St Peter, Bottesford
Witnesses, Wm FRANKISH and William GREEN
(FreeREG)
Now Joseph Ladlow was in Willoughton in 1831 where JANE Ladlow was Baptised 12 Dec 1830 to JOSEPH/ANN
(FreeREG)
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THOMAS, 25 March 1827, Bishop Norton (Familysearch.Org)
There is a Death Reg for a ANN Ladlow, March 1839, Caistor, 14 221
Joseph and Elizabeths Marriage Reg was Sept 1839 Caistor
Trish :)
Thanks so very much Trish,
I did have the baptism of SALLY STAMP pg, 51 image 31 Waddingham and the m.of her mother Elizabeth to Joseph Ladlow but not the witnesses.
Elizabeth Stamp's mother was Sarah Green so the connection to William Green is another avenue to explore for me.
You were immensely helpful and I am much appreciative.
Thank you again.
ps I would like to sit here and search for my ghosts but present day calls and I am off to a 80th b/day.