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I am trying to find out information about a William tucker who was with a woman called Hannah or Anna. On the 1851 census he is living with his wife Hannah in Yeovil and son aged 12. He is a mat maker. He is aged 50ish. As they have only 1 child I wonder if they ever married or were married before. There is no record of them before.
The census says he was born in coleford. He moved to taunton and their son married in 1858 to Maryann crawley of Ireland. Over the years William jnr changed his place of birth. By the 1861 census he must have died as Anna is now a lodger and a widow living with her son and wife.
I would like to know some info before they went to Yeovil. Did they have other partners?
Did they come to Somerset for a special reason? Did they have brothers or sister?
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Hi
he is living with his wife Hannah in Yeovil and son aged 12. He is a mat maker.
This is the 1851 entry - they are lodgers so no relationship is shown between William & Harriet but both are shown as married so it's probably safe to assume they are man & wife
William Tucker 54 mat maker b Wiltshire
Harriet 41 b Wilts - Sutton Bingham
William 12 b Gloucs - Westbury on Severn
HO107 Piece 1930 Folio 391 Page 20
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At the same time there is a family in the Taunton area that would fit the younger William in Taunton in 1861. The only problem is that William the father here is a butcher, which doesn;t fit the later family's hawking and travelling background
William Tucker 40
Hanna Tucker 40
Elizabeth Tucker 14
Sarah Tucker 7
Mary Tucker 5
William Tucker 2
HO107, 941, 4, 2
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William the son married in 1858 . By 1861 on the census it says Anna is a lodger and a widow. From 1861 we can trace the family. But William changes his place of birth, he is impossible to find where he was born really. Why did they come south west to taunton as we cannot find any real family although this is a local name. On William jnr wedding lines it says mother Anna and his occupation is a mat maker which all his family became. So the 1851 census fits but who was he and who was she?
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William the son married in 1858 . By 1861 on the census it says Anna is a lodger and a widow. From 1861 we can trace the family. But William changes his place of birth, he is impossible to find where he was born really. Why did they come south west to taunton as we cannot find any real family although this is a local name. On William jnr wedding lines it says mother Anna and his occupation is a mat maker which all his family became. So the 1851 census fits but who was he and who was she?
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At the same time there is a family in the Taunton area that would fit the younger William in Taunton in 1861. The only problem is that William the father here is a butcher, which doesn;t fit the later family's hawking and travelling background
William Tucker 40
Hanna Tucker 40
Elizabeth Tucker 14
Sarah Tucker 7
Mary Tucker 5
William Tucker 2
HO107, 941, 4, 2
This family are still in North Curry in 1851 so not your family HO107 Piece 1922 Folio 297 Page 11
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William the son married in 1858 . By 1861 on the census it says Anna is a lodger and a widow.
No name given for wife - where is William living in 1861. Can you give the 1861 reference for tracing purposes please RG9 piece number folio number and page number
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I think I've found them but Anna Tucker is a lodger - she is not shown as his mother
Also - she is 60yrs old whereas Harriet in 1851 was 41
RG9 Piece 1617 Folio 29 Page 52
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Thanks for that info about the dates I hadn't noticed yet the trade is correct ans his descendent s did the same, but I thought Anna was his wife, I thought too Harriet could be Hannah..its a complete mystery I have a copy of the wedding certificate and he is a William Tucker mat maker. I will have another look at the details. Can't understand why they came from coleford or forest of dean to taunton. I am trying to get to the records office to check his death. ItIthink he wasn't a Tucker.
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William disappears after the wedding year.
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William disappears after the wedding year.
Which William - junior or senior?
yet the trade is correct ans his descendent s did the same
The 1861 has William juniors occ as ?? (something I cant decipher) and traveller
but I thought Anna was his wife
Anna is 60 - William is 22
For clarification - here's the full 1861 entry. All b Taunton except Mary & Anna. 1851 showed William was b Gloucs
William Tucker 22
Mary 20 b Ireland
William 3
John 1
Mary 2 weeks
Ann 60 lodger b Wiltshire - traveller
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Just checked 1851 census and Hannah or Harriet is 51.they give different places of bifth. William s doesn't exist.
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Yes that is correct. William 2nd married Maryann Crowley. That is why I think that his mother she says she was born Wiltshire in 1851 at Sutton benger. Never heard of it.
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A quick check of Googlemaps gives Sutton Benger, north-east of Chippenham in Wiltshire.
https://maps.google.co.uk/
Gaie
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I cannot find any trace of William until he is at Yeovil then his sons marriage.
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I have found out that william tucker died in 1860 on 24th December of chronic bronchitis. His wife is Anna. He was 72. He died in Taunton.
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Hi William Tucker is my Grate Grate Grandad his Son not sure if it was William he married Maryann manley their son Charley tucker is was my Grandad , I was always told as a child that my grate Grandad was not Romany Gypsy but he married my Maryann who was ,
But the more I have looked in to this I think grate grate Grandads mum Hanna was also a Gypsy and married a none Gypsy but he seams to have disapired , and William and Hanna Sean to be on their own traveling as hawkers .
Any information on this would be grate , William Jr and Maryann are buried near Chard I’ve been to the cemetery .
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Hi again just joined these chats they are the tuckers of taunton I also found in a very old census Hanna from wiltshire and William tucker a navigator in Monmouthshire and a 2 year old son . None of them were from wales , would this be any link, I was always told about my grate grandparents in taunton were hawkers funny thing is my mother is welsh and a family of butchers called tucker from taunton lived their must be in the 60, so wonder if it was a sin that was the butcher ?I was never told they were butchers,
I live in taunton some of William he’s children continued a Travelling life the other half settled I only know my Traveller Tucker relatives
None of my non traveller relatives sadly did meet one of my Dads first cousins at a funeral the other day
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General opinion is that our t7cker family are the gypsies in town there are alot of newspaper articles about them for a ll kind of things and they are v always called gypsies. Non of the v other you found on the net adds up date wise regarding the the original William ticket
Has not buried with his wife.
They had 19 children 12 survived. They were very poor and the children couldn't wait to get away it seems.you were probably at dad's funeral the other month. They weren't butchers. I'm not convinced now that they are tucker or were married. Hanah Anna or Harriet disappears after his death and the is no wedding certificate yet found. They were in Yeovil in 1851 as mat makers. Not on any other census before. It is says according to Mike and hilda that a brother of William worked on the estate in Devon as Gardner and goes wide was a cook and they married. It was said it was William and Mary but he was 18 from Taunton and she was 16 from Ireland. Hope that helps
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This is Sally I wonders if it was you
I think you are right about mat makers Simone els on this page said the were butchers I new they weren’t but me mum and dad said some tuckers had a butcher in Pontypridd they were related but would have been from the side of the family that settled William and Mary children’s children :-*