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Title: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: Wattsy on Thursday 06 February 14 20:04 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am wondering if anybody would be able to look up a birth circa 1789 in the records of All Saints Church in Epping. I am looking for a birth/christening of a Sarah How(e) and would like to know the names of her parents and any other siblings born to them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Wattsy
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: olleym on Thursday 06 February 14 20:23 GMT (UK)
Free BMD shows a death of a Sarah Howe aged 78 in Epping in 1867; giving a birth year of c. 1789.
But I assume she wasn't born a Howe.

Mark
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: Wattsy on Thursday 06 February 14 20:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark

My Sarah How married at All Saints Epping in 1813 to a John Boswell.

Marriage entry gave her name as How - spinster of Epping.  All census give her place of birth as Epping. So, unfortunately the death of Sarah Howe in 1867 is not mine. Thanks for trying to help. Much appreciated.

Wattsy
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: t mo on Thursday 06 February 14 21:58 GMT (UK)
hi
just checked parish records and the only how/e is this one for a Richard howe born 2 nov 1795 bpt 29 nov 1795 father david mother sarah  checked from 1780-1795 all saints .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: t mo on Thursday 06 February 14 22:08 GMT (UK)
ps just gone back and checked from 1795 to 1800 all saints  and still nothing .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: Wattsy on Thursday 06 February 14 22:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Trevor

What a mystery but thank you for your hard work.  As Sarah was married in All Saints Epping, I had assumed that she would have been baptised in the same church, based on the information from census.

All her children were born in Epping but I have not found their births so, I wondered if you had time if you could check their births from 1814 onwards??  :D please. If they are not baptised in All Saints I wonder if I could be going down the path of non conformists.

Thank you.
Wattsy
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: Wattsy on Thursday 06 February 14 22:25 GMT (UK)
Sorry Trevor should have confirmed looking for children with the surname of Boswell, mother Sarah and father John.

Wattsy
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: t mo on Friday 07 February 14 10:15 GMT (UK)
hi
found these births for john and sarah boswell apart from francis john,s occ is shoemaker on francis birth his occ is labourer .
William bpt 18 may 1817 born 23 apr 1817
francis  bpt 24 oct 1819  born 1 oct 1819
james  bpt 28 apr 1822  born 18  ?  1822 can,t decipher month
sarah  bpt 23 may 1824  born 14 mar 1824
matilda  bpt 26mar 1826  born 3 mar 1826  on this bpt place of abode is Theydon garnon [in reg as guernon ] still in epping dist , all other birth abode is epping .

hope this helps .
trevor
ps did check reg up to 1830 but no other births show .
does the list correspond with what you have found re names of children ?
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: Wattsy on Friday 07 February 14 15:18 GMT (UK)
Hi
Thanks so much for the info re Boswell children.

I had originally
John James b 1814
William b 1817
Francis 1820
James 1822
Matilda 1827
Harriet 1828 - my gt x 3 grandmother
Henry 1833


I had no evidence of a Sarah Boswell not living with parents from 1841 census onwards
So maybe she died.

It was great to see that john Boswell was shoemaker in the early 1800's - his father according to his birth was a mariner so maybe I might find some occupation records.

I don't know this area very well so maybe you might have some idea which other church near to Epping I could try for the birth of Sarah How?
However, let me thank you again for the information you have already given me.

Kind regards

Wattsy
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 09 February 14 16:25 GMT (UK)
I had a look round all the surrounding parishes. No sign of any Howes I'm afraid. She must have been living there at the time of her marriage but not born there? I looked at the non conformist registers too. I'm not sure how complete they are, but there was nothing there either. She's a bit elusive. The wedding record said that John Boswell was from Wapping, Middlesex. Maybe she was from there too?
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 09 February 14 16:32 GMT (UK)
However, I did find your Sarah b.1824. Sarah Ann Boswell buried 6th Feb 1825 aged 10 months in Epping.
Title: Re: Look up please - All Saints Church Epping
Post by: t mo on Sunday 09 February 14 20:55 GMT (UK)
hi both
nannyj beat me too it I did the same checks no birth s anywhere close to epping  , but did find the bpt for harriett I missed and you need to make a correction as she was born either 20 26 or 28 [ can,t decipher the writing ] 1829 and bpt 15 feb 1829 sorry for missing that before , also regarding  john james I checked the register 3 times around the date you give and he,s not in the all saints book either , did you take his birth from census data ? .
went through the marriage register 1754 1785  and found these 2
Samuel boon wed Elizabeth how 12 oct 1770 one of the witnesses was a john how !
and Thomas aley  wed an Elizabeth how 27 april 1761
presume we have 2 families in epping .
regards
trevor