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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: regis1952 on Tuesday 04 February 14 10:54 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I believe that Arthur was born about 1859. He died in 1910 in Menzies and it is said that he was 51 years old. I am not certain of this.
I believe that he lived in Sydney before 1900 sometime but I cannot track any information on him. These is an Arthur C Cooper born 1869 but I think this may not be him.
I am trying to track down if he was born in NSW or anywhere in Australia. Does anyone have any leads.
I have tried the NSW BDM site.
If his mother was Francis C Muckle the C may have been Carisford!!
Any clues please.
PS I am on Ancestry.com.au but have had no luck so far.
Thanks
Regis 1952
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Previous thread to save duplicate searching
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=676238.0
Cando
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From the linked thread
Reply#6
Birth in NSW
2904/1892
COOPER Olga R
Father Arthur C Mother Caroline
District Sydney
This certificate should show the parents details including place and date of their marriage.
Transcriptions are available in NSW [$20] and a cheaper option to purchasing the full certified certificate.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html#transcription
I note the report of his death was in the Bendigo Advertiser...perhaps he was from Victoria.
May I ask the source for Arthur's mother's name as I can't see it mentioned on the thread.
The birth certificate would help you with your research.
Cando
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These is an Arthur C Cooper born 1869 but I think this may not be him.
This is not your Arthur C.
Birth
4010/1869
COOPER Arthur C
Father Thomas F Mother Frances C
District Redfern
Death
29070/1954
COOPER Arthur Charlton
Father Thomas Fergus Mother Frances Catherine
District Newtown
Cando
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This obit says he came from Sydney where he was connected to a large carrying firm.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article91055058
regards,
Ros
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The Kalgoorlie Miner (WA : 1895 - 1950)Tuesday 14 June 1910 has a death notice.
COOPER,— At his residence, Menzies, on 12th June, Arthur Carisford Cooper, aged 51, after a long and painful illness. (New South Wales, and English papers please copy.)
This suggests his family were in England.
Rhonda
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Also reported in the Bendigo Advertiser - mentioned on linked thread on reply#1 so possibly lived in Victoria at some stage.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xy9/
Cando
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I believe that he lived in Sydney before 1900 sometime but I cannot track any information on him.
I posted some info on the linked thread about Arthur in NSW supported by the mention of him at the Gaiety Hotel, Sydney in the NZ Paperpast
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=676238.0
You need Olga's birth certificate to learn more about Arthur and Caroline.
Cando
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Thanks for that. Great thinking and expertise
Regis 1952
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I hope I'm not to late with this information. Arthur Charlton Cooper was born in 1869 in Redfern NSW to Thomas Fergus Cooper and Francis Catherine (nee Muckle).1845
she was the daughter of my gggrandfather George Muckle b.1785 Lasswade Scotland
Does this help.
Here is further information I found on the net
"At the time of his marriage Thomas was living in Castlereagh St SydneyFrances was living in East Street Redfern.Her father was deceased.
Hi Tom, I have read your page before about the Cooper's of Chatham and I see that there is a comment added to the end about the descendants of Thomas Fergus Cooper. It was me that got in touch with that person, so I thought I would fill in the detail as best I can.
Thomas Fergus Cooper married Frances Catherine Keightley Muckle in Sydney in 1868. They had at least 3 sons all born in Redfern, Sydney. I think there may also have been another son, Harold Edward Cooper. I have not managed to find out when Thomas Fergus or Catherine died.
Arthur Charlton Cooper b 1869 d 1927, married Matilda Johnstone and they had 3 children - Aubrey Johnstone Cooper, Edna and Alice. Thomas Aubrey (Horberry) Cooper b 1873, (my great grandfather) and George Benjamin Cooper b 1876 d 1928 (Queensland) m ?name but had sons. His headstone says he was in the AIF in 1914-18.
Thomas Aubrey Cooper started travelling and ended up in South Wales, UK, where he married Lydia Miles in Cardiff in 1902. They had 3 daughters Frances Doris b 1906, Audrey Keightley b 1909 and Lesleen Valerie b 1910 (my grandmother). They travelled back to Sydney in 1911. Unfortunately Thomas Aubrey died in 1918 in Sydney and the family returned to Wales in 1919. Lydia then died in 1927 leaving the 3 girls to look after each other. My grandmother went on to have 5 children and 13 grandchildren. The number of her great and great great grandchildren continue to grow!
The Australian connection was always a puzzle until I discovered Ancestry and your website!
(Funnily enough my sister has lived in NSW for the last 20 years, after much travelling she ended up in Tilba NSW which is where Lilla Charlotte Muckle's daughter Lilla married and had children. When we investigated we discovered that my sister was living amongst her distant cousins!)
Hope that this has been helpful.
Louisa August 2014"
This is confusing but now I (linny1) am writing: my great aunt was the Lilla mentioned above. Where do you live? I have more info

COOPER—MUCKLE—July 11th, 1868, by the Rev. Dr. Bailey, of
the Free Church of England, Mr. Thomas Fergus Cooper, of
Castlereagh-street, to Francis Catherine, daughter of the late
George Muckle, Esq., of East-street, Redfern