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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: LeoHB on Monday 03 February 14 12:34 GMT (UK)
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Can someone identify which regiment this is? Probably around 1918-19.
Many thanks.
Leo
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Good morning,
Looks like the Seaforth Highlanders tartan, also vaguely looks like a stags head on the sporran.
John915
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Seaforth Highlander? - Stag badge on sporran, two tassels, McKenzie tartan, diced headdress band. It's a pity it is so dark. The Seaforth's had distinctive red and white hose tops.
If you have a surname you could try the medal cards on Ancestry or the National Archives.
Note the Sergeant - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Seaforth-Highlanders-Officer-Sergeant-Valentines-Art-colour-card-/400652232979?pt=UK_Collectables_Postcards_MJ&hash=item5d48bbe913
Ken
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Thank you so much Ken and John. Rootschat comes up trumps again. Yes, photo is very dark (years in a coal fired home) and I've looked hard but cannot see stocking tops clearly.
For years we though this was our Great Aunt's fiancé, Edward, who was killed in WW1. We now believe it to be his brother, as another relative produced a photo of the fiancé who turned out to have been in the Durham Light Infantry. Through his military records believe this to be his youngest brother, born 1901. Their surname being Brown I thought if we could pinpoint a regiment it would reduce the number of records to trawl through! This chap we believe to be Henry and this details as next of kin on Edward's record are barely legible. Number appears to be 16155(?)8 D Coy 3 Batt Illegible North Camp Glen illegible Midlothian Scotland. This record appears to be for pension purposes as dated 1919 (Edward died in 1916) so Henry may not have seen active service.
Number produced no results so I thought if we had the regiment it would help.
Any idea why someone from Hartlepool would be in a Scottish Regiment, as his brothers, both of whom died, were in the DLI and Alexandra, Princes of Wales Own (Yorkshire Regiment) respectively?
Great to have the regiment pinpointed. Thanks again.
Leo
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Hi All
see link below
http://www.rbls-kirkwall.org.uk/memorials/San/Andrew%20M%20Fotheringhame.pdf
3rd Bn Royal Scots at Glencourse Barracks Midlothian 1916
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Leo
Post 1916 lads were sent where needed.I have lads on my local memorial in West Yorkshire died serving in kilted Scots Regiments
Ady
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Hi Leo
If he was 3rd Battalion Royal Scots his number would have been five digits. They were pre-WW1 Militia and had their only numbering sequence. As the Royal Scots only had one Militia battalion they may even have still been using four digit numbers.
Any chance of posting the image which has the number, or posting the link to an online image?
Ken
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Hello LeoHB,
Firstly, may I say what a lovely photograph this is and how immaculately turned out he is. See how precisely the plaid is folded across his chest to show the light stripe on each fold. Could the castle on the back-drop have any significance? Edinburgh? Stirling? (Someone will recognise it)
Could the place he was stationed at in Midlothian be Glencorse Barracks, near Penicuik? One time home of The Royal Scots. In 2006 The Royal Scots (the oldest British Regiment) merged with other Scottish Regiments to form The Royal Regiment of Scotland. Glencorse Barracks is now the headquarters of the Royal Highland Fusiliers, 2nd Bn, The Royal Regiment of Scotland. The Museum for The Royal Scots is within Edinburgh Castle & might be helpful in identifying WW1 uniforms.
Also, if your relative was in a Scottish Regiment, his service No. may have started with S, ie, S/1234.
Good Luck with your search.
Regards, Dod.
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Hi All
See link below
http://www.1914-1918.net/royalscots.htm
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Thanks to all for your responses. Lots to read through and follow up but initially it does look like Glencourse as likely place
I'll have a go at posting the illegible section to see if anyone can decipher further. Meanwhile another inspection of the number and I think what we read as 1 may be / so number may be S/61558. We'll try that and see if anything emerges.
Cheers all for your interesting articles and links.
LeoHB
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Hello Leo,
Shame on me, a Scot, for not recognising Edinburgh Castle on the back-drop of your photograph. Not used to seeing the Castle from that angle. Looks so different from the usual view from Princes Street. (I can see the Castle, high on it's rock, from my street on the opposite side of the Firth of Forth. Local saying is, "If you can't see the Castle it's raining. If you can see the Castle clearly it's going to rain")
Anyway, Edinburgh Castle is another point in favour of his uniform being the Royal Scots. Dress uniform? Not likely to be a piper if he's from Yorkshire! But then, never assume.
Regards, Dod.
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Royal Scots pipers wore the Royal Stuart tartan and this piper is not wearing Royal Stuart,
agree with John and Ken, a Seaforth Highlander.
My error, Royal Stuart wasn't worn until 1933, still of the opinion he is a Seaforth
James
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Good evening,
Agree with James, wrong tartan to be Royal Scots. From 1881 they wore trews in Black Watch tartan, this was changed in 1901 to Hunting Stewart and to Royal Stewart in 1933.
As a lowland regt they wore trews and not kilts apart from the pipes and drums. They also don't wear the fur hats, instead it should be, depending on date a glengarry or tam-o-shanter with 2 black cock feathers.
The photo shows the following, 2nd one down; http://scottishmilitarydisasters.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31:photo-identification&catid=1:smd&Itemid=2 Seaforth Highlanders.
John915
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Dear All
Once again thanks for your responses and help. Having looked at the regiment identification site I though the tartan was perhaps Gordon Highlanders but the sporran would point definitely to Seaforth I think.
Took me a bit of time but I managed to download the bit of fairly faint and illegible record for Henry. One section is as it appears the other is a bit of cut and paste I attempted when I realised one bit was torn and should fit the lighter line. Still didn't help much but maybe someone can make a bit more sense of it.
Regarding the photo he is very smartly turned out but would it be worth putting up in the Photo section to see if anyone can clean it up a bit?
Thanks again everyone.
Leo
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Extremely talented folk on the Photo Restoration Board, Of course it's worth a try.
James