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Title: Help Finding a London Freedom of City Admission Paper
Post by: Laverdiere on Sunday 02 February 14 16:02 GMT (UK)
Apparently, according to his two son's admission papers in the London Freedom of City Admission papers collection on Ancestry, my grandfather George Cremer was made a freeman on 15 Dec 1779 (in book L).  He belonged to the company of Fishmongers.

However when I did a search for George I found nothing.  I tried to look manually--lots of the transcriptions aren't transcribed very well and the papers themselves are out of order. So no luck yet. 

I was wondering if any of you could help me find the record?  I'd like to know for sure who George's father is and his occupation.

I did find a record on British Origins London Apprenticeship abstracts that has a George Creamer apprenticing to James Cripps of the Fishmongers on 27 Nov 1772 which I guess would make sense if he was admitted 7 years later. 

Thanks for your help!  Laverdiere
Title: Re: Help Finding a London Freedom of City Admission Paper
Post by: Bookbox on Sunday 02 February 14 18:01 GMT (UK)
It looks like some of the Freedom records for 1779 may not survive.

The records digitised on Ancestry are held at London Metropolitan Archives. The LMA catalogue jumps from COL/CHD/FR/02/1068 (for September 1778) to COL/CHD/FR/02/1069 (for October 1784), implying a gap of 6 years.

You could drop LMA an email to check, as this sort of query is generally answered free of charge.

ask.lma@cityoflondon.gov.uk

ADDED - Ancestry does claim to have 620 records for Freedom Admissions in 1779, and a random check shows that some are from that year, but many are wrongly dated. Probably best to ask LMA for advice.
Title: Re: Help Finding a London Freedom of City Admission Paper
Post by: Laverdiere on Sunday 02 February 14 18:19 GMT (UK)
Thank you! I'll try that.
Title: Re: Help Finding a London Freedom of City Admission Paper
Post by: confused73 on Sunday 02 February 14 18:55 GMT (UK)
I tried to find out about my Gt grandfathers Freedom of the City Admission and was told a lot of the information had been destroyed,  I think during the last war.