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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: plimmerian on Thursday 30 January 14 19:45 GMT (UK)
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my friend has started to research his BAYLEY branch and has got as far back as 1851 census in Haslington
James BAYLEY head aged 29, labour railway
Ann his wife aged 24
Frances a daughter aged 3
Mary a daughter aged 2
and his ancestor William a son aged 1month
all born in Haslington
(with a lodger Philip Hicton? aged 40 a butcher also of Haslington)
he is curious to find the marriage of James and Ann - are there any Haslington records online he could search or is it a trip to Cheshire Record Office?
thanks
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Have you checked freebmd for the year of marriage and Ann's maiden name. Haslington came under Nantwich RD for that period
Have you checked Family Search
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1614792
You can use www.cheshirebmd.org.uk to see if it is transcribed as it will show which church it took place in
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Hi
If you have a sub with FindMyPast then you can see some original entries from the Parish of Haslington. The baptisms of the three children listed on the 1851 Census are there but as yet not seeing a possible marriage for their parents.
Cheers
Karenlee
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thanks for the links but sadly no Haslington listed as yet
and he just paid to join ancestry so isn't able to pay to join FindMyPast at this time
:-\
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Frances Bailey
christening: 20 February 1848 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 20 February 1848 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: James Bailey
mother: Ann
Mary Bailey
christening: 25 January 1849 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 25 January 1849 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: James Bailey
mother: Ann
William Bailey
christening: 20 April 1851 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 20 April 1851 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: James Bailey
mother: Ann
Mary Bailey
christening: 20 April 1851 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 20 April 1851 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: James Bailey
mother: Ann
Matthew Moses Bailey
christening: 25 June 1854 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 25 June 1854 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: James Bailey
mother: Ann
John Bailey
christening: 5 November 1856 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 5 November 1856 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: James Bailey
mother: Ann
Hannah Bailey
christening: 29 January 1857 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 29 January 1857 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: James Bailey
mother: Ann
Mary Bailey
birth: 1849
burial: 11 September 1859 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 11 September 1859 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
There were either 2 Marys or she was christened twice or there are 2 families
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Perhaps this family is related, the lodger's being Hicton on 1851
1841
Samuel Hicton 60
Martha Hicton 60
William Hicton 35
Ellen Hicton 20
Ann Hicton 13
119/8/9/12
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thanks for all the helpful info - I'll get my friend to join in with the chat and create a profile! 8)
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hi everyone - thank you for all your hard work and for all your help - I'm a newbie with researching family history and I'm just finding my feet - my friend Plimmerian has helped me get started and introduced me to this website as well - here's hoping I can find more information in the weeks to come! Thanks again!
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A warm welcome to Rootschat!
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In 1861 the Bayley family are listed as "Bailey" living at Grub Street, Haslington as follows:
James 38
Ann 34 (born Werton?)
Frances as Francis 13
William 10
Marthar 8?
John 4
Ann 7months
with a brother Thomas Bailey 56
all born Haslington
no Matthew Moses found as yet but an ancestry tree states he lived until 1929 - no parents listed!
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Matthew Moses Bayley birth registered 1852 Crewe
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1881
Haslington
Matthew M. Bayley 28 born Haslington Tailor And Draper Employing 2 Men
Wilfred Bayley 2
1891
Matthew M Bayley 38 Tailor and Draper
Esther Bayley 37
Wilfred J Bayley 12
Annie L Bayley 10
Elsie Bayley 5
Lilian M Bayley 3
Frances Crosson 71
1901
36 Crewe Road Alsager
Matthew M Bayley 48 Tailor
Esther Bayley 47
Wilfred J Bayley 22
Annie L Bayley 20
Elsie Bayley 15
Ida M Bayley 13
Helen G Mason 17
Rebecca Jennings 15
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I can see him in 1911
Matthew M Bayley
Birth Date: about 1853
Date of Registration:1929
Age at Death:76
Registration District: Congleton
Volume:8a Page:612
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Matthew M BAYLEY and Esther ASBURY Nantwich Civil marriage 1876-1880
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1871
39 The Heath Haslington
William Bayley 55 Labourer
Ann Bayley 45 born Weston
Fanny Bayley 23 Drugs maker
Mathew Bayley 18 Tailor
Elizabeth Bayley 4
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sorry to sound dumb but getting confused by it all now - are there two Matthew Moses Bayley one with a father James and one with a father William??? I thought this was going to be easy lol
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also confused how Fanny / Frances same age but appearing as belonging to two families but a Fanny Bayley born in Congleton district in 1848 but census states born Haslington - also a Frances Bayley born in the correct district of Nantwich in 1847 for being born in Haslington - argh - and the winds won't stop lol
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is the wife Ann seeing two brothers at the same time??? :-\
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it started off so easy with James Bayley an only child of the William Bayley born abt 1851 in Haslington!
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Hi
Stick with it, it will all start to slot into place :)
This looks like James's death
James Bailey
birth: 1822
burial: 10 March 1862 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 10 March 1862 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
So in 1871,it looks like his brother is living with Ann. They wouldn't have been allowed to marry as I think that it was illegal to marry your dead husband's brother, in England.
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Keep these for future use
Possibly James's brothers and sisters - he names his children after them
Hannah Bayley
christening: 25 April 1802 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 25 April 1802 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bayley mother: Mary Bayley
Elizabeth Bayley
christening: 20 May 1804 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 20 May 1804 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bayley mother: Mary Bayley
Thomas Bayley
christening: 13 July 1806 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 13 July 1806 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bayley
mother: Mary Bayley
George Bayley
christening: 10 October 1808 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 10 October 1808 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bayley mother: Mary Bayley
Mary Bayley
christening: 1 March 1812 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 1 March 1812 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bayley mother: Mary
John Bailey
christening: 23 May 1813 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 23 May 1813 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bailey mother: Mary
Frances Bailey
christening: 11 July 1819 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 11 July 1819 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bailey mother: Mary
William Bailey
christening: 11 July 1819 Haslington, Cheshire, England
residence: 11 July 1819 , Haslington, Cheshire, England
father: John Bailey mother: Mary
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thanks for all the help and for keeping me going - I think a day trip to Haslington is in order when the weather gets better! ;-)
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there seems to be a William and Emily both aged 25 in 1841 in Haslington with daughters Lavinia and Hannah - two Emily Bayley deaths listed in 1852 in Northwich area - just got to keep chipping away at it I guess ;-)
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Just noticed that in 1871, there is a Hicton family living next door. Henry James market gardener
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sorry not got back sooner but a family member in Norfolk died so just getting ready to go there for the funeral later in the week - be back to this when got more time - thanks again
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Help needed to start family tree for my husband
Peter Bayley 1944
Father...James Bayley 1875- c1930
Mother Ada Hockenhull 1876-
Great grandfather William Bayley
Great grandfather. James Hockenhull
James Bayley and Ada lived in New Street, Haslington and Clapgate Farm, Haslington.
James died in an accident at Crewe works repairing a furnace.
He was a founder member of The Cosey Club, Haslington.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hello Norma Bayley
You seem to have missed a generation out
Births Dec 1916
Bayley Frank Hockenhall Nantwich 8a 482
Frank BAYLEY married Joan HULME in 1942 at S Paul Crewe
1881
RG11 3544 90 20
Village of Haslington
BAYLEY William 1851
BAYLEY Mary 1855
BAYLEY James 1876
WILKINSON Hannah grandmother 1809 all born Haslington
1891
Clap Gate Lane, Haslington, Nantwich
BAYLEY William 1851 Coal Merchant / Market Gardener
BAYLEY Mary 1855
BAYLEY James 1875 Bricklayers App
Marriaage
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Bayley James Congleton 8a 534
Hockenhull Ada Alice Congleton 8a 534
1901
16, Ford Lane, Crewe
BAYLEY James 1877 Bricklayer
BAYLEY Ada A 1876
BAYLEY Eve 1900
1911 finds a large family ( 7 children) at
Clifford Grove Haslington Crewe
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Hello
Thanks for the message. Yes the generation you mention are my husband's parents. I wonder if you can direct me to best source for the notes on the family you mention...particularly the family of seven listed . Where did you find that information please? Obviously I'm a beginner !
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A couple of free reaources...
www.cheshiiredbms -org-uk
www.freebmd.org.uk
www.familysearch.org
http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/Live/v3.6/database.html
All the sites need learning to get the maximum out of them
1851 & 1881 census can be viewed for free on the subsc sites findmypast & ancestry, you can also get 14 days free trial on most subsc sites BUT remember to cancel you card details!
Try your local library to see if they offer use of the sites, ours offer free of charge. near Chester RO pay them a visit the staff are very helpful and someone visiting will help you.
If living in Crewe check out the library for the Crewe Chronicle for details of an inquest in 1930,
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Can you post a reply to this so I can send you a PM!
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elzabels I'm not sure how I PM you to reply to your message!Ive tried but uncertain if it has happened. Thanks for the research tips. N
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Sorted
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I feel that there are two different families around the same area and time period. Both James Bayley as head of household.
I'm a member of the James Bayley and Ada Alice (Hockenhull) variety! Quite enjoying this ...pity Christmas preparations getting in the way!
We have an Eva not Eve as far as we are aware. Thanks for all the help.
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Norma this is your BAYLEY family, I have just 'skimmed' through the census returns and I get back to the one in the opening post. James b 1877 father William b 1851 is the month old baby referred to.
Plimmerian is a regular on the forum, the friend 'wisdom??' hasn't been on since Feb 2014, suggest you put all the info on the 4 pages in a tree and e mail opening poster