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Title: Unknown occupation
Post by: matty1965 on Thursday 30 January 14 16:51 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have found this photo but can't work out what occupation he would have had. His cap seems to have some sort of waterproof cover on it, so I am thinking he had an outdoor job. I did think maybe a tram driver but haven't been able to find any similar photos. Does any one have any ideas?

Thanks

Matty
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: Fide et Fortitudine on Thursday 30 January 14 16:57 GMT (UK)
Is he holding a truncheon?  That and the armband suggest a policeman or some kind of law enforcement officer.  The lapel badge might reveal a clue.  Can you get a close-up of it? 
It also looks like he might be wearing a kilt.
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Added: No kilt.  His right hand is resting on a piece of furniture.  At first I thought his leg was up.   
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: matty1965 on Thursday 30 January 14 17:02 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I thought that might be a truncheon at first but looking at it more closely I decided it was the edge of a folded up coat - again with some waterproofing on it - but I my eyes may well be deceiving me! Here is a closeup photo of the badge.

Thanks!

Matty
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: JenB on Thursday 30 January 14 17:06 GMT (UK)
Policemen used to wear a striped armband like that.

Was he, perhaps, a special constable?

From 1910 to the end of the war, Specials were not usually issued with uniforms, but were instead expected to wear an armband just above the elbow of the left arm displaying their identification number and rank. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_armband
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 30 January 14 17:08 GMT (UK)
See photograph at http://www.1900s.org.uk/1914-18-ww1-jobs.htm the lapel badge looks the same

Stan
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: Fide et Fortitudine on Thursday 30 January 14 17:11 GMT (UK)
Snap, Jen B.  I'm inclining towards police because of the armband. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_armband.
Is there anything written on the back, Matty?  Can you date/name/or geographically locate this person? 
I think Stan and Jen cracked it. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_constable#England_and_Wales
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: matty1965 on Thursday 30 January 14 17:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the replies, certainly looks like a special constable then. There's nothing on the back but I think it will be around WW1 and in the South London area.
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 30 January 14 17:26 GMT (UK)
The armband doesn't look like the WW1 Special Constable armband as per this site:

www.pmcc-club.co.uk/museum/displayimage.php?album=250&pos=0

 ???
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 30 January 14 17:36 GMT (UK)
The armband doesn't look like the WW1 Special Constable armband as per this site:

www.pmcc-club.co.uk/museum/displayimage.php?album=250&pos=0

 ???

It says "This type of armband was worn by many special constables while on duty during World War I."  not all special constables.

Stan
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: Fide et Fortitudine on Thursday 30 January 14 17:49 GMT (UK)
His badge looks pretty similar to this one London Met Special Constabulary badge world war I era on this website.  http://britishmilitarybadges.co.uk
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: bbart on Thursday 30 January 14 18:19 GMT (UK)
Fide et Fortitudine beat me to it;  I was just about to post the same badge:

http://www.sallysbadges.com/viewphoto.php?x=0

Photo found by clicking on "WW1 Police Reserves" on the home page of http://www.sallysbadges.com/home.php, but there are lots and lots of badges on that site to browse through if you don't agree!
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 30 January 14 21:27 GMT (UK)
Special Constables Bristol 1915  http://www.flickr.com/photos/46122021@N03/7871141300/ note armbands.

Stan
Title: Re: Unknown occupation
Post by: thebadger on Friday 21 February 14 15:30 GMT (UK)
Hi
Definitely Metropolitan Special Constabulary  1914-18