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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: CV-S on Tuesday 28 January 14 00:14 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
In the 1851 census my ancestor is living with her second husband, who is a bricklayer. Under "occupation" she is dittoed. I have seen "ditto wife" etc. before but she is just plain ditto, showing clearly the same occupation as her husband, ie bricklayer.
However, surely this can't be right. She was in her thirties with several children, plus appears to have been running a travellers lodging house at the time, but most of all surely back then this was considered entirely a man's job.
Maybe the enumerator just neglected to write "wife" or just mistakenly wrote ditto. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
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Definitely a ditto too much. Probably should read Bricklayers wife
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I'm not an expert, but I have this memory of having seen a painting of young women in the mid 1800's working at collieries - on the surface, - pushing and loading trollies etc - heavy labouring work, so is there a vague possibility your female ancestor could have truly been "labouring"?? Where was her husband employed as a bricklayer?
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Hi CV-S:
I'm not disputing whether or not an error was made on the census but this is an interesting paper on women in the building trades.
Clarke, Linda, and Christine Wall. "Omitted from history: Women in the Building Trades'." Proceedings of die Second International Congress on Construction History. Vol. 1. 2006.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xsz/
Haven't read the complete paper but this excerpt at the bottom of page 37 stands out:
"As a result in the southern counties of England between the seventeenth and nineteenth centuries, as Snell discovered, 34% of parish apprentices were girls, who were apprenticed in 51 occupations including as bricklayers, carpenters, joiners and shipwrights (Snell 1985, 278). They normally completed and practised their trade and were especially numerous in the eighteenth century."
sami
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Thanks for your replies and opinions.
I think it's most likely just an error in this case, given the circumstances of a young family, working husband, running the lodging house and not having an occupation listed in the other censuses. (also unfortunately I don't know where her husband worked)
However, what an eye-opener to read about women working in such manual jobs so long ago. Definitely very surprising.
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I'm not an expert, but I have this memory of having seen a painting of young women in the mid 1800's working at collieries - on the surface, - pushing and loading trollies etc
See "Women and the Pits" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stenhouse/coal/pbl/coalmain.htm
Stan
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In 1850 the term bricklayer had a much wider meaning than it has today. It encompassed what we would now call a builder and included some of the functions we would today attribute to an architect.
At that time one of my ancestors was a bricklayer at the gunpowder factory at Waltham Abbey. Subsequent research proved him to be the second most important person on the site, with only the manager senior to him.
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Hi CV-S:
I'm not disputing whether or not an error was made on the census but this is an interesting paper on women in the building trades.
Clarke, Linda, and Christine Wall. "Omitted from history: Women in the Building Trades'." Proceedings of die Second International Congress on Construction History. Vol. 1. 2006.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xsz/
Haven't read the complete paper but this excerpt at the bottom of page 37 stands out:
"As a result in the southern counties of England between the seventeenth and nineteenth centuries, as Snell discovered, 34% of parish apprentices were girls, who were apprenticed in 51 occupations including as bricklayers, carpenters, joiners and shipwrights (Snell 1985, 278). They normally completed and practised their trade and were especially numerous in the eighteenth century."
sami
How interesting
Yes a lot of women, and children, worked in heavy industry as others have said . There are a lot of drawings and photos of women colliery labourers in the Lancashire coal fields online.
Here is a drawing of brickmakers, including a woman, in Britain 1858