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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: SVC on Sunday 26 January 14 20:29 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to find information on the Hitchcock family who started off in Bethnal Green in the early 1800's. In particular I am tracing the ancestors of John Hitchcock who married Sarah Taylor in May of 1841. If there is anyone out there researching this family I would love to hear from you!
SVC
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Hi if I have correct marriage at St Matthews Bethnal Green, it was 15th May 1842 Father's John Hitchcock and James Taylor?
Keyboard86
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Thank you so much.It helps to have the right year. I believe John was born circa 1823 in Bethnal Green but by 1861 he was living in Norwood, Surrey. Haven't found his birth and parents yet but know some of his children.
Thanks for your help :)
SVC
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Thank you so much.It helps to have the right year. I believe John was born circa 1823 in Bethnal Green but by 1861 he was living in Norwood, Surrey. Haven't found his birth and parents yet but know some of his children.
Thanks for your help :)
SVC
Glad to help, can you give details of family in 1861 Norwood including John's occupation?
Keyboard86
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Just found a John b Bethnal Green and wife Sarah b Shoreditch in Norwood 1861 with family, John is shown as b c 1829?
Census ref RG09/367/110/21
Possibly bad transcription in 1861, is this 1851 family in Norwood
John 27
Sarah 25
Robert 6
Catherine 3
John 2
Charles 8 months
HO107/1575/539/2
Still in Norwood 1871 aged 48 b London
Census ref RG10/693/7/7
Keyboard86
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Yes , thanks. I have the 1851 and 1861 and 1871 census returns. It is his birth and parents I am hitting a brick wall with. His Father may have been John Hitchcock born about 1801 in Bethnall green but I cannot find a birth record if he is. I'll keep looking.
Thanks again,
SVC ;)
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:) At marriage both Sarah and John were at 4, Digby Walk, Bethnal Green, they both married as Minors, in 1841 Sarah Taylor aged 15 is with a George & Maria Fitzpatrick in Digby Walk, next door is a Robert Hitchcock 39 and Maria Hitchcock 39 with a James Harmless? 25 Susannah Harmless?19 and a Male Harmless aged 0
Census ref HO107/692/ 5/41 / 16 and HO107/692/ 5/42 / 18
Appreciate you have the census returns, but as you never supplied them in your original post, just placing them on record for my and hopefully others perusal? !
Keyboard86
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Hi,
Thank you once again. You must excuse me if I don't know the correct form. Will try to post more info in future. I am not very computer savy. Your info is great though and I really am very grateful. Have been concentrating on John and didn't think about looking for Sarah!
Regards,
SVC
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:) No problem at all, the more info especially census references really helps us!
You may be aware/unaware, that Sarah Hitchcock remarries by banns to a William Parslow/Purslow 17th May 1874 St Luke West Norwood as a Widower
1881 census:-
William Purslow 47 occ Lab b Romford, Essex
Sarah 50 b Shoreditch
Thomas HILCHCOACH 18 b Norwood
Alfred HILCHCOACH 16 b Norwood
Residing at Elm Lodge, Chatsworth Road, Lambeth, Surrey
Census ref RG11/626/61/11
Keyboard86
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No, I didn't know that!
In the 1871 census John and his family were living at 4 Providence Place
John Hitchcock 48
Sarah. 47
James. 16
George. 14
Edward. 12
Agnes. 10
Thomas. 8
Alfred. 6
Ref. RG10 69377
The Hitchcocks appear to have had 12 or 13 children.
John Hitchcock died in first quarter of1872 in Lambeth, Surrey. The record says he was 55 years old and was born in about 1817.
Ref. Lambeth, London Vol 1d Page 348
If this is John's death registration he should be 49 and born in 1823. I suppose the record is only as good as the information given by the person registering the death. I cannot find any other likely death record.
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Found earlier a baptism for John, with parents John/Ann but John's occupation is Haberdasher not Labourer in Shoreditch, so have not posted earlier, would love to find out about the Robert and Martha Hitchcock in 1841 Digby Walk and just who the James Harmless/Hamleys with apparently wife Susannah and infant were?!
Think John b c 1823 is just down the road in 1841 from Digby Walk
Keyboard86
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:) OK the burial of John Hitchcock was:-
John Hitchcock 11th March 1872 aged 54 Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth abode Providence Place, Lower Norwood.
Keyboard86
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Death record looks pretty conclusive then but the d.o.b. May be incorrect.
I believe that at the time of their marriage John was living in Digby Street.
I found a report dated January 1848 which described The appalling living conditions in Bethnal Green. Digby Walk is described thus:
A distressing and degrading (place). In this alley which is in a state of the most beastly dirt. More than half of this horrid alley is covered with a stagnant pool of the most offensive and filthy slime and mud, in some places to the depth of a foot. Some of the houses which abut onto it are unfinished, but the yards of the older houses present a character little dissimilar to the stagnant gutter or ditch itself. The refuse from a pigsty drains into this gutter and adds to the pungency of its offensiveness. Foul privies and overflowing cesspools ensure much sickness and disease prevails here.
Not very salubrious!
I have found a baptism of a John Hitchcock born on 27th September 1801 at St. Matthews, Bethnal Green. He was baptised on 11th November and his parents were William and Sarah Hitchcock. I wonder if this is a more likely candidate for the father of John born circa 1823. I agree with you that he doesn't seem like the son of a haberdasher!
Cheers,
SVC
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;D Just bear in mind that ( a ) may not have been baptised and ( b) Ilegitimate? And made up a name and occupation for his supposed father, see what you can find re family in Digby Walk in 1841!
Keyboard86
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St Matthews Bethnal Green 25/2/1828
George Fitzpatrick married Maria Taylor spinster
Witness James Taylor
Looks like she was Sarah's sister.
Jennifer
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If this is the correct marriage and according to the census of 1841 George was 30 and Maria was 25, then Maria would have been only 13 when she married. I have found a birth for Maria Taylor baptised St. Leonard's Shoreditch, in June 1814, parents James and Mary Taylor. Again this would make Maria only about 13 or 14 when she married. I suppose it is possible. Sarah was born in Shoreditch in about 1826, father James ( according to her marriage record to John Hitchcock ).
SVC
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Hi
In the 1841 census, when completing the enumerators' books that we can view, the enumerators were supposed to round down ages to the nearest 5 or 10 for adults, so that Maria could have been up to four years older than stated.
KR
Gaie
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Thanks, I didn't know that. I am still pretty new to all this. I guess I have a lot to learn!
SVC