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Title: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 00:16 GMT (UK)
I would appreciate any information on James Edward Skews, and the Skews family from Gravesend, Kent.  James Edward married Jemima Aldridge in 1915 and then moved to Canada sometime thereafter.  Please reply if you have any information on our family tree.  Did he have any siblings?  Were they in the war?  I noticed there is a Skews listed in one of the local war cemeteries.  Any info would be most appreciated! 
Best regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 00:25 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

Is this his birth?

James Edward Skews
Apr-May-Jun 1882
Gravesend Kent
Volume:   2a  Page:   485
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 00:28 GMT (UK)
Yes, I believe so.  With the birthdate is there a way to find more info?
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 00:30 GMT (UK)
He should appear in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census as he was obviously in England until his marriage in 1915, but at the moment I cant find him.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 00:36 GMT (UK)
Thank you for looking.  I can't seem to find too much but have really just started looking.  If I could find his parents names and other siblings that would be fantastic.  In Canada there are only a few Skews, but I noticed on this site and the census there are many in England, which is encouraging!
Regards,
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 00:41 GMT (UK)
This looks like his passage to Canada - the original isn't very clear

James Skews
Male  Age:   37
Birth  abt 1882
Birth Country:   England
Date of Arrival:   19 Dec 1919
Vessel: Empress of France to St.John, New Brunswick from  Liverpool, England

I think he is travelling with wife Jemima aged 46 and daughter Alice aged 3.


Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: saddles on Saturday 25 January 14 00:46 GMT (UK)
Check your PM.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 00:50 GMT (UK)
Oh my goodness, thank you!  Yes, my father had an older sister named Alice.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 00:51 GMT (UK)
Saddles.  Not sure what PM is?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 00:57 GMT (UK)
Just at the top here it says messages, click on that and you should have a Private Message from Saddles.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 01:02 GMT (UK)
It's very odd, I cant see him at all in the censuses and I can't find a birth for Alice. The only records seem to be the marriage in 1915 and the emigration. The only way you might get his father's name is to send for the marriage certificate.

Bedtime here now, but if no one else has found him, I'll try again tomorrow.

Jan
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 01:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jan!  Are you in England?
B
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 01:07 GMT (UK)
Yes and it's long past my bedtime.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 01:12 GMT (UK)
Thank you and good night!  It's only 5:11 pm here in Vancouver... I can search for a few more hours!
B
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 01:12 GMT (UK)
Actually his birth certificate would be more use as that would give you both parents' names.  :D  Dont know if this site will be of any use  http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=/Z4a_Medway_Ancestors/%20
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 01:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  I'll give that a try.
B
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: suzard on Saturday 25 January 14 01:18 GMT (UK)
I'm still up!!

Was Jemima Aldridge previously married ???

Suz
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 01:21 GMT (UK)
I don't know but it's getting interesting already!
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 01:27 GMT (UK)
Maybe I should switch and start trying to find info on Jemima?  I kept finding info on Alice, which may have been a sister as she named her daughter Alice.  I did see another interesting entry, which had Alice Margret Rose Aldridge.  My fathers sisters were named Alice, and Margaret Rose. 
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: suzard on Saturday 25 January 14 01:38 GMT (UK)
The only Jemima Aldridge I can find b.c.1873 (as Mrs J Skews was age 46 on shipping record) was b Norfolk and was married to William Abraham Aldridge and had sons Leonard William & Harold G???
Her maiden name was possibly Hingle
Do any of these names ring a bell?

Suz
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 01:43 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  I will give my aunt a call and see if these names are familiar. My aunt who is now 86, is named Margaret Rose.  Can I get back to you tomorrow?  I know it's late there.
Best regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: suzard on Saturday 25 January 14 01:54 GMT (UK)
that would be great - any extra information would be great
It is strange James Edward is not to be found on 1891/1901/1911 census
All kinds of possibilities to consider

Back tomorrow

Suz
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 25 January 14 07:52 GMT (UK)
I keep coming back to this family living in Northfleet Kent in 1881. I can't see the family post 1881

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQHQ-16T

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 25 January 14 08:01 GMT (UK)
With the birth registered in Gravesend (and other Skews births in nearby Dartford) could it be that father was in the Navy?

1881 census has a John W.H.Skews (a married man age 25) on board a ship off Gibraltar.
Just maybe?!?! ;D


OTOH Kay's find is a much better fit!
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 25 January 14 08:09 GMT (UK)
Could be them in 1891 - Image looks possible
SKEUR William    53    General LabourerNorthfleet, Kent   
SKEUR Harriett    51Swanscombe, Kent   
SKEUR Louisa 12       
SKEUR James    10    
SKEUR Rose 8    
Living at  32, Rural Vale, Northfleet All children born Northfleet
RG12 piece 649 folio 16 page 25

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 25 January 14 09:19 GMT (UK)
I can't see the same family together post 1891.  I think William had died but this could be his wife Hannah in 1901.  Living at 17 Back Garrick St, Gravesend and mistranscribed although I can see why

William Laurence 41
Caroline Laurence 38 b Gravesend
Harriet Shows    62 Mother in Law b Swanscombe

Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 10:06 GMT (UK)
Morning. That Northfleet connection looks interesting as there is a James Skews who was born there in 1852 and appears in all the censuses with his wife Jane. I wonder if this is your James's uncle? They dont seem to have had any children.                         
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 11:34 GMT (UK)
I can't see the same family together post 1891.  I think William had died but this could be his wife Hannah in 1901. 

There is this death

Dec 1896
Skews    William    58    Strood    2a   327
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 11:38 GMT (UK)
This looks like the death of the 1852 James Skews, but I cant see any more deaths, so it does look as if the James Skeur could be the right one.

Deaths Mar 1915   
Skews    James    63    Dartford    2a   1098
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 11:54 GMT (UK)
The only Jemima Aldridge I can find b.c.1873 (as Mrs J Skews was age 46 on shipping record) was b Norfolk and was married to William Abraham Aldridge and had sons Leonard William & Harold G???
Her maiden name was possibly Hingle
Do any of these names ring a bell?

Suz

I think this could be the Jemima Aldridge that died aged 78 in Norwich in 1949.
Volume   4B Page  651
 
 
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: suzard on Saturday 25 January 14 13:43 GMT (UK)
Could be them in 1891 - Image looks possible
SKEUR William    53    General LabourerNorthfleet, Kent   
SKEUR Harriett    51Swanscombe, Kent   
SKEUR Louisa 12       
SKEUR James    10    
SKEUR Rose 8    
Living at  32, Rural Vale, Northfleet All children born Northfleet
RG12 piece 649 folio 16 page 25

Kay

Good find - image definately reads Skews
It looks like James and Rose have been entered in the wrong order -Rose was age 1 in 1881 - so possibly they should have been entered as Rose age 10 and James age 8

1881
37 Perry St Northfleet Kent
#William Skews Head M 44 Genl labourer Northfleet Kent
Harriet wife 42 Swanscomb Kent
Albert son 12 scholar Northfleet
Frederick J son 10 scholar Northfleet
Emma daughter 7 Northfleet
Minnie daughter 5 Gravesend Kent
Louisa daughter 2 Northfleet
Rose daughter 1 Northfleet
RG11 877 100 53

This looks like Rose's birth reg
Rose Selina Skews Jun qtr 1880 N Aylesford reg dist kent 2A 498

this looks like Rose in 1901
10 Gaitskell Rd Lewisham London
Amos Robinson Head M 24 Commercial Traveller Clothing Ilkeston Derbys
Ellen wife 38 Bow London
Edgar son 16 Clerk Builders Merchants Holloway
Lillian May daughter 1 month
ROSE SKEWS nurse 22 nurse Gateshead Kent
RG13 544 16 23

Suz
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 25 January 14 13:50 GMT (UK)
Good find - Sadly James is illusive in 1901

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: suzard on Saturday 25 January 14 14:08 GMT (UK)
Have found the family in 1871
Barrack Field Northfleet kent
William Skews Head M34 Bricklayers Lab Northfleet
Harriett wife 31 Swanscomb
Harriett M daughter 11 scholar Marylebone London
Caroline daughter 9 scholar Gravesend
Alice daughter 5 scholar Northfleet
Annie daughter 4 Northfleet
Albert son 2 Northfleet
RG10 895 99 20
Lots of children to research -if we have the correct family

Albert is interesting
Looks like his birth reg
Albert William Skews
Mar qtr 1869 North Aylesford Kent 2a 442

there is this
Canadian British Regimental Service
reg no 33 1/8 1350
Albert William Skews
97th Foot Soldiers
Atttestaion 26 Nov 1885 Gravesend Kent
p.o.b. Northfleet Kent
religion C of E
age 18

looks like he married
Marriage reg
Albert William Skews
Mercy Hibben
Sept qtr 1894
Dartford Kent
2a 888

and he died same quarter
Death reg
Albert William Skews
age 24
Sept qtr 1894
Dartford 2a 244

1901 Barnfield Dartford Kent
Mercy Skews servant widow 30 Cook Stone Kent
to a solicitor

Mercy remarried
Dec qtr 1901 to George Judge

looks like may be a tragic story there -and a Canadian connection?

Suz
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 25 January 14 14:16 GMT (UK)
Interesting family pages re the Skews in Northfleet and the family of William b 1837
http://www.terrys.org.uk/charts/s/skews400.htm
http://www.terrys.org.uk/charts/s/skews500.htm

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 15:19 GMT (UK)
Those charts are interesting as it shows William as a brother of the James who married Jane and died in 1915.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 18:07 GMT (UK)
I can't express my gratitude enough!  Thank you so much for doing such an amazing job trying to piece the puzzle of the Skews family!  I have a little bit more information since I just contacted my Aunt Margaret Rose, 86 years old.  Apparently her mom and dad, never talked about family or life in England.  However we do have the original marriage certificate and birth certificates of James Edward and Jemima.

They were married in the New Parish Church, in 1915.  Bromley is also on the document?
Their parents were, James Aldridge and Emma Aldridge.  Can't read her maiden name but looks like Post?  James parents were William and Harriet Skews.  Her maiden name, Carter.

Oh yes, Harriet Skews was born in 1895.

According to my aunt, James skews came to Canada for a few years and then went back to England to marry Harriet.  They came to Canada, don't know when.  The daughter Alice was born in Canada and they took her back to England to see her parents.  I know the record was found of the three of them returning to Canada when Alice was three.  Apparently they also brought Harriet's two brothers, Jim and Len with them.  They moved to Ontario, while James and Jemima moved to Winnipeg. 

What I do know is Jemima had 4 children, Alice, a set of twins, Mayvin and Maylee?, Margaret Rose and my father, James. 
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 18:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara, I'm a bit confused now.

Do you mean that James came back to England to marry Jemima? Wasn't Harriet his mother? I did wonder is Alice had been born in Canada as we cant find her birth here. That means that there should be a passenger list for James and Jemima leaving England in 1915 and then coming back in 1919 before returning to Canada on the 19th Dec 1919.

The only thing that worries me, is that means they would have travelled during WW1 when they went to Canada after the marriage. Did people do that?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 18:34 GMT (UK)
Hello
Yes James came back to England to marry Jemima.  Harriet would be James mother.  Sorry I think I mixed up some info here.  Jemima was born in 1895, not Harriet. 
Re the traveling back and forth, that is the info I received from my aunt.  Not sure if that is correct, but they definitely brought the two brothers with them Len and Jim. 
Sorry about the confusion! 
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 18:42 GMT (UK)
This looks like Jemima's family in 1901 from the extra information you've been able to give us. They seem to have travelled about a bit. It doesn't look as if Jemima's date of birth of the passenger list was correct.

1901   Piece: 710 Folio: 45 Page: 18   
Broad Ditch, Southfleet, Kent

James Aldridge   45  Ordinary Ag Lab                                    Newbery, Berkshire
Emma Aldridge   35  Field worker                                           Ludlow, Shropshire
Mary A Aldridge   15  Field worker                                           Ludlow, Shropshire
James Aldridge   14  Ordinary Ag Lab                                     Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire
Emma Aldridge   10                                                              Ross, Herefordshire
Jemima Aldridge   6                                                                Bridgend, Wales
Tamar Aldridge   4                                                                 Strood, Kent


Obviously James Aldridge would be the Jim that went to Canada with them.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 18:47 GMT (UK)
They had 4 more children I think: Leonard Aldridge    1901, Harriott Aldridge 1904,  Lily Aldridge 1907, and Pheby Aldridge 1901. 

There's Len   ;D
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 18:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that!
Question. What are all the town/ city names listed beside the children?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 19:01 GMT (UK)
Where they were born - as I said it certainly looks as if the family travelled about a bit as the children were all born in different places - Jemima was born in Wales.

All the last 4 children were born South Fleet, Kent so that is probably how James and Jemima met.

I'm not sure that Leonard actually travelled back to Canada with James and Jemima as he isn't on that passenger list as far as I can see. There is this one though:

Leonard Aldridge aged abt 21
Arr Quebec 5th July 1920
aboard the Metagama

No James Aldridge with him though. There are a lot of James Aldridges crossing to Canada and there aren't enough details to be able to work out which is yours.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 19:08 GMT (UK)
My Aunt said that her mom, jemima, did mention to her that there was some Welsh in the family.  I guess that was it!  Apparently when James, jemima and Alice were traveling by train from Eastern Canada to Manitoba, the train they were on derailed.  Many people were killed and injured, even in the same car they were traveling in.  It was a miracle they survived!

I will now have to try to fill out a family tree with all the info that has surfaced.  Do you think its time or is there other info available? 

Best regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 19:28 GMT (UK)
Probably bits more to come - we'll keep digging.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 19:32 GMT (UK)
Wonderful!!  Looking forward to it!
It would be interesting to delve into William Skews that Suz mentioned.
Best regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 19:36 GMT (UK)
Next bit: I think this is Jemima's father's family - he probably named his daughter after his mother.

1861    RG 9; Piece: 720; Folio: 152
Newbury

James Aldridge   27     Licensed Hawker                                    Greenham, Berkshire
Jemima Aldridge   27                                                               Highclere, Hampshire
James Aldridge   10                                                       Speen, Berkshire
Charlot Aldridge     5                                                                 Hogbourn Settas, Wiltshire
Ann Maria Aldridge   3                                                          Newbury, Berkshire
William Aldridge   9 months                                                      Newbury, Berkshire
William Aldridge   35  lodger                                                     Newbury, Berkshire
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 19:41 GMT (UK)
Interesting!
A licensed hawker.  A street vendor?
B
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 19:51 GMT (UK)
Looks like it!

This looks like their marriage, probably after James's birth as she was only 17 when he was born according to the census.

ALDRIDGE, James
Hungerford   Berkshire
1853  Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume   2C   357
 
BLACK, Jemima

I cant find his birth under Aldridge or Black, so maybe he wasn't registered.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 20:05 GMT (UK)
Looks as if James was living with his sister before his marriage

1851 Class: HO107; Piece: 1685; Folio: 389; Page: 52   Newbury

William Brinley   28        General Dealer                                    Hampshire
Charlotte Brinley   20                                                                Newbury, Berkshire
James Aldridge   17 brother in law    General Dealer                   Greenham, Berkshire
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 20:09 GMT (UK)
And in 1841 Newbury. So that gets you back another generation

Robert Aldridge   45  Labourer
Ann Aldridge   40
Alfred Aldridge   15
William Aldridge   14
Charlotte Aldridge   10
James Aldridge   7
Sarah Aldridge   4

Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: polarbear on Saturday 25 January 14 20:17 GMT (UK)
The 1919 passenger manifest indicates that James and Jemima had been in Winnipeg Manitoba for the previous 4 years so it appears they only travelled to England in 1919 as well.

If they were in Manitoba from 1915 they should be in the 1916 Prairie census but I don't see them at the moment.

PB
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 January 14 20:31 GMT (UK)
Wonderful!!  Looking forward to it!
It would be interesting to delve into William Skews that Suz mentioned.
Best regards
Barbara

Here's his family in 1851  HO107; Piece: 1609; Folio: 80; Page: 3
Northfleet

William Skews   64                                        Bexley Kent
Ann Skews           42?                                       Wrotham
Mary Skews   22                                         Northfleet
William Skews   14                                 Northfleet
Eliza Skews   12                                         Northfleet
Caroline Skews   10                                         Northfleet
Emma Skews   6                                           Northfleet
Sarah Skews   3                                           Northfleet
Edward Skews   1                                           Northfleet

James Skews was born 1851 after the census
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Saturday 25 January 14 21:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you Groom and PB for the info today.  I hate to break away but must go out for an errand.  I look forward to continuing the very interesting search.
Best regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 06:57 GMT (UK)
William Skews born 1789 in Bexley, Kent  is listed as a Corporal in the 5th Regiment of Foot on 5 Apr 1814.

He lost his left arm above the elbow at Vittoria? External occupation listed as a Labourer and he was 5ft 6

There is a christening on Family Search on 21 Feb 1790 at Bexley Kent for William Skews  mother Sarah https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J327-V6P

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 09:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Kay
I'm so fascinated with all this information, I'm still up working at my computer at 1:30am!
I found an article from Gravesham, called the Hill and it sounds like the same William.  They mention him losing an arm in Waterloo.  They also talk about him being the local confectioner.  Fascinating!   
Later I found another confectioner in a Kent, George Skews,  born in 1828.  Is he related to William?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 09:36 GMT (UK)
Hi again,
I don't have access to the census but it was the 1851 census and his wife was Charlotte.  Hope this helps.
Regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 09:51 GMT (UK)
It is fascinating.  This is George in1851.  Living in Bethnel Green and as you say a confectioner.  There must be a connection. Will look into it

George Skews    28 b Bexley Kent
Charlotte Skews 30
Richard Skews    7
George Skews    4

Kay

Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 10:01 GMT (UK)
This looks like his christening in Bexley Kent .  A cousin or one of the William's remarried?

George Skews Bapt  12 Jan 1823  Bexley, Kent, England
Father:    William Skews
Mother:    Elizabeth


Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 10:03 GMT (UK)
Hmm interesting!
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 10:06 GMT (UK)
Maybe this is a relative?
Robert Skews born 1827
AB Seaman Coast guard
Kent census 1861

Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 10:09 GMT (UK)
I'm wondering if there would be a way to find out more about Sarah, Williams mother?
Could we find out how many children were in that family.  The name of the father?
Thanks
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 10:12 GMT (UK)
I think George b 1823 was  the step brother of your William born 1837 and a child of the William injured at Waterloo

William's b 1837 parents married in 1829 http://www.terrys.org.uk/charts/s/skews500.htm
and his father Willam b 1787 was married before to an Elizabeth.  She died in Bexley in 1828 age 40 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JCW7-MNR

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 10:22 GMT (UK)
Sorry we keep crossing - I am eating breakfast at the same time as typing  ;)

Have you used Family Search before because many of the births death etc in the form of parish records are on there. https://familysearch.org/search  Will have a look for Sarah on there.

This is a search I did on the site  for siblings of the George Skews you found which gives many possibles
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Askews~%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22bexley%20kent%22~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1815-1829~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Aelizabeth~

Kay


Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 10:28 GMT (UK)
Thank you Kay
That's a wonderful resource!  I'll look through that for a few minutes and then I better get to bed as it's 2:27 am here.  I can't wait to show my father all this info you have found tomorrow at dinner!
Thank you, thank you!
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 10:30 GMT (UK)
Have good night. 

Kay

PS Just looked the 1851 census that Groom posted on the previous page for William Skews who was at Waterloo and in 1851 he was a confectioner
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 10:51 GMT (UK)
On the Family Search site I can't see any other children for Sarah or a marriage for her in Bexley

The only thing I can see is a burial for Sarah Skews on 17 Oct 1815 in Bexley, Kent.  No age is given

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 10:55 GMT (UK)
Maybe this is a relative?
Robert Skews born 1827
AB Seaman Coast guard
Kent census 1861

This one looks to be unrelated or very distant.  He was born in Plymouth in Devon :)

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Kay
Do you think that there are two William Skews in 1851?  Is it possible to be in Waterloo and be listed as a confectioner?
Barbara

Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Sunday 26 January 14 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hello

Quote
Do you think that there are two William Skews in 1851?  Is it possible to be in Waterloo and be listed as a confectioner?

No it's fine. The Battle of Waterloo was 1815, so he fought there, lost his arm, returned home and was a confectioner in 1851.

From the piece you found:  "In one house, now no. 10, lived William Skews, confectioner, and a Waterloo veteran who had lost an arm in that battle. "  So it's the same man.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 26 January 14 18:37 GMT (UK)
It is the same William

In 1861 he is listed as a Greenwich (Army) Pensioner and a Confectioner.  A later profession after losing his arm?

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: groom on Sunday 26 January 14 18:45 GMT (UK)
You could search through this to see if you can find him at Waterloo. I found my cousin's gx3 grandfather but it took some time. It said on the search there was no one of his name, but I found him listed.

http://www.archive.org/stream/waterloorollcall00daltuoft#page/n3/mode/2up
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 18:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you Kay
This will keep me busy for awhile!
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 19:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Kay
No, I didn't see anything on 5 th Regiment on foot.
Anywhere else to look?  Appreciate your guidance on this.  Again fascinating!

Also, would Gravesham/Gravesend have photos in the archives possibly of William Skews the confectioner as mentioned in the article?  Or even his house, number 10?  Are they accessible via Internet?  Would love to see this!

Regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Sunday 26 January 14 20:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jan for the document on Waterloo.  I'm still searching.  I might need to subscribe to Ancestory.com to find more info.  Not sure where to go from here.  But, I am trying to focus right now on William the confectioner from Kent.  It's a very interesting story!  I know where my next trip is going to be ... Can't wait!
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 27 January 14 09:06 GMT (UK)
Hello Barbara

Many of the replies with info are from Groom.  It must be confusing with so many people replying. 

I haven't seen the cutting re William, however I haven't seen photographs in newspapers that early.  There might be something on the Kent Archives re the family but I haven't checked what they hold http://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/archives_and_local_history.aspx

Kay
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Tuesday 24 November 15 22:56 GMT (UK)
 William Skews was born in 1789 son of Sarah Skews father not known. William was baptised on 21 Feb 1790 in Bexley Kent. He served in the 5th (Northumberland) Regiment of Foot for 2 years 11 months and took part in the Peninsular War campaigns of Salamanca on 22 July 1812 and Vittoria 21 June 1813. Here he was wounded and lost his left arm. He became a Greenwich Pensioner in 1814. He married Ann Jarrett (b 1811) in 1829 in Plaxol Kent. They had many children William died in Sept 1863 aged 74 of natural causes and his wife in 1864 aged 53.

Regards

KS
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Tuesday 24 November 15 23:19 GMT (UK)
Hello K
I am so excited to receive your email!  My name is Barbara Skews Kosick, my father James Edward Skews and my grandfather, Edward Skews.  Edward came to Canada with Jemima Skews in the early 1900's.  I am trying to find information on my English family tree.  I was fortunate to visit Gravesend and Bexley, Kent this past August.  No one I spoke with had any information about the Skews family but it was wonderful to see where my relatives had once lived.  Do you have any additional information K?  I see your last name is Skews.  I would sincerely appreciate any information you would be willing to share!
Best regards,  Barbara Skews
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Tuesday 24 November 15 23:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara

Sure there is a book on the Skews/Skuse family by a Radio presenter called Keith Skuse.
The spelling no so important there 13 variations at the last count. His book is called Cornish Heritage and has a copper coloured sleeve. Highly recommended will fill in lots of gaps. He worked on the book for over 30 years completed in 1983.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Tuesday 24 November 15 23:49 GMT (UK)
Keith identified the start of the Skews family and the various branches. I'm looking for a connection to William Skews but evidently I am from  different branch of the family. Mine are from Kenwyn in Cornwall and like so many others migrated during the tin and copper mining depression in the mid 1800s. My family moved to the NE coal fields to Durham. The Skews name is derived from the Cornish word 'Skez' meaning shade, shadow.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Tuesday 24 November 15 23:57 GMT (UK)
My interest in William is his military link. I have researched the 5th Regiment of Foot founded in 1694 and fought throughout the American War of Independance. William's service meant he left before the Battle of Waterloo which as you know was 1815, as a result of injuries received. All regiments were numbered up until 1881 when with Cardwell reforms they all become regionally focused for recruitment. They later became the Northumberland Fusiliers. In Williams day they were a bit special and sometimes referred to as Wellington's bodyguard.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Wednesday 25 November 15 00:00 GMT (UK)
Is there anything in particular you are interested in?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Wednesday 25 November 15 00:08 GMT (UK)
 Keith's book also has a short bio on most members of the wider Skews Family. There are sections looking at the migrations to Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, Mexico and other destinations.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Wednesday 25 November 15 00:23 GMT (UK)
At the Battle of Vittoria 21 June 1813 Wellington had 57,000 troops as well as Spanish and Potuguese troops. William was in the 3rd British Army Infantry Division Commanded by Lt Gen Thomas Picton, of which William was one of three Infantry line Company Corporals. He was with the 2nd Infantry Brigade commanded by Maj Gen Charles Colville. They had already marched 20 miles to join battle with the French. They attacked in four columns across the River Zardora in order to take four objectives. Williams Division attacked the French centre where upon the French hit them with 40-50 Cannon hence the injuries. Williams division suffered heaviest casualties 1,800 killed. The French defences crumbled and 3,000 French prisoners were taken 5,000 troops killed or injured on both sides and 151 cannons captured. Napoleon escaped but this battle was the end of French rule in Spain.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Wednesday 25 November 15 01:31 GMT (UK)
Hi K
Thank you so much for the information you sent!      I was hoping to find out who William Skews' mother and father were and where they were from, as well as information about the children of William and Sarah.  Where they eventually moved to, etc.  It seems there is a lot more info on the Cornish Skews members than the ones from Kent.  When I was there I was hoping to find some Skews relation, a tombstone or?  But, I couldn't find anything.  What area of England do you live in Kirk? 
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Wednesday 25 November 15 08:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara

What we know? William's mother was Sarah but no indication of a father's name.

Possible William was baptised in his mother's name?
I've looked for possible marriages in that area there is one for a Thomas Feast but the dates
Seem unlikely and they were from Cambridge. So nothing further on the Father.

I will focus on the movement of the Skews family from Cornwall to Kent later today!

My family Chart 041 Originate  in Cornwall St Wenn and Redruth and moved to Barnsley South Yorkshire and Durham around 1860.

Regards hope your day is a good one

K
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Wednesday 25 November 15 18:02 GMT (UK)
William Skews (1789-1863) married twice. First wife was Elizabeth (SNU) two sons Thomas b1821 NFDK George b1823 married Charlotte (Dane) in 1843 b 1821 d 1902 in Chelsea (82)

They had two sons Richard Nathaniel Edwin b 1844 d 1932. George Alfred b 1846 d 1918
Both moved to Bethnal Green their successors moved into the following areas:
Poplar, Hammersmith, Shrewsbury, Edmonton and Swansea.

I am adding these to the tree over 140.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Wednesday 25 November 15 22:07 GMT (UK)
Referring to the book mentioned earlier specifically Chart 017
Are Skews family members in Gravesend, Ayleford and Bethnal Green.

Additionally their successors branched into, Devonport, Edmonton, Enfield, Kettering
Shoreditch, Northampton, Peterborough, West Ham, Hull, Shrewsbury, Macclesfield and Swansea
From the period 1840-1980 and beyond.

Regards

Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Wednesday 25 November 15 23:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for the information!  It was incredible to read the information you found regarding the battle of Vittoria.  I will write these in my journal of the Skews family.  We recently moved and unfortunately I have placed all the notes I had collected in a box for safe keeping.  It is tucked away and I can't access it until all our home renovations are complete. 

You mentioned that William Skews did not participate in the Battle of Waterloo, only Vittoria but I am a bit confused because in reading an article written by the Gravesham Borough Council, called Discover Gravesham, The Hill. A Historical Walk Through Gravesend and Northfleet.  They talk about William Skews being in the Battle of Waterloo and that he lost an arm.  He then became the town confectioner ...  I could email you the article if you would like?   Or maybe there were two William Skews?


Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Thursday 26 November 15 07:20 GMT (UK)
Hi

Hope all is well and that the move goes OK? The Vittoria Waterloo thing is easily explained
Generally most likely explanation is that not many people know much about the Peninsular War
But most have heard about Napoleon and Waterloo? The action is such that William had left service the year before Waterloo on 05 Apr 1814 when he became a Greenwich Pensioner. The Military General Service Medal (MGSM) loosly regarded as a Waterloo medal representing many of the military engagements between 1793-1814 wasn't issued until 1847 by Queen Victoria. There had nothing hitherto awarded to veterans of the Napoleonic War. 'Better late than never'. His military record States his wounding was from Vittoria which was almost two years prior to Waterloo, but again Waterloo is referring to the period rather than place? No matter!
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Thursday 26 November 15 07:24 GMT (UK)
From the records I have found both William Skews and a son by his First marriage George Skews were both confectioners. I'd be very interested to see the article you mention too.Thanks

Best Wishes

K
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Thursday 26 November 15 12:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara

I have expanded my tree for William Skews. By Elizabeth his first wife; first son was George b 1823 was also a confectioner his son Richard Nathaniel Edwin Skews b1844 son was James Edward Skews b1882 d1947 is this your relation?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Thursday 26 November 15 16:54 GMT (UK)
I'm so sorry that I cannot locate my file and notes re the Skews family.  It does appear that James Edward Skews b 1882 could very well be my relation.  An uncle perhaps?  I found the article I mentioned re William Skews on the internet, I tried to contact them re the article but I didn't get a response.  Is there a death record for James Edward Skews, born 1882?  I am curious if it was from England.  On another note, there is a way to send a private message, not quite sure how to do this but I can try to figure it out.  I will try to send you the article, its very interesting. 
Thanks again K for your assistance and interest!  It is 8:53 am here in Vancouver, Canada.  A beautiful sunny winter day!
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Thursday 26 November 15 18:13 GMT (UK)

Hi Barbara

Thanks for yr reply. Yes I went into the Canadian records James Edward DoD is given as 1947 and his wife's maiden name as ALLRIDGE. I'm sure this is correct. So far there is no marriage date for Elizabeth or info on her maiden name. But I know her first son was Thomas Skews b 1821 I would assume that their marriage was 1820 or before. Likely too that William used money from his pension to set himself up in the confectionary business only a theory. Don't worry about the article I can find it on line. Hope yr well.

Regards

K
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Thursday 26 November 15 18:23 GMT (UK)
Hi K

Yes, that is correct!  My grandmothers maiden name is Aldridge.  Although I don't know anything more.  Strangely according to my father and my aunt, my grandparents never talked about England or relatives.  My father and aunt didn't know they had aunts, uncles and cousins in England until I showed them what I had found.  So it's very exciting to read about our past and trace the family tree!  According to your research Richard Nathaniel Edwin Skews was my great grandfather?  He was the father of James Edward?  Thanks again, much appreciated!
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Thursday 26 November 15 18:48 GMT (UK)
I have found how to private message my e mail for you if you send a test message I will reply and attach a screen shot of the record for James Edward.
If you go to top of page click on messages and send from there see if it works. Regards K
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Thursday 26 November 15 18:50 GMT (UK)
Let me know when u get the info ok

K
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Thursday 26 November 15 20:13 GMT (UK)
Thank you K!  Did you send this through Ancestry?  I was a member several years ago and started a family chart, although I have a feeling it is inaccurate.  I noticed the death notice states there is no Bio.  I would like to add my family's info to this.  Do you know how I would go about doing this?
Best,
Barbara
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Thursday 26 November 15 20:22 GMT (UK)
Replied separately as PM
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: simonob on Tuesday 08 December 15 09:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara and K
I am so excited to find your conversation in RootsChat. Richard Nathaniel Edward Skews was my Great-Great Grandfather. He was born in 1844 and my mother Valerie Skews was born one hundred years later in 1944. My side of the family went from Kent to Bethnal Green and West Ham and later Hammersmith. My mum now lives in just outside Colchester in Essex and I have emigrated with my family to New Zealand.
Earlier today I made the connection about William Skews (1790ish) had remarried to Ann Jarrett in 1829 and my line is from his first wife Elizabeth who died in 1828 and their son George. It is good to see K has reinforced my conclusion.
I would love to be able to share research. Have you heard of the book "Cornish Heritage" by a UK BBC radio host Keith Skues. It is quite old now but he contacted all of the Skues/Skews and other variants in the mid 80's and put there research into the book. That is where all my initial data came from. I am inclined to dig it out and have another look for any information on Williams parents.
Sorry for the rambling message..
Simon
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Tuesday 08 December 15 16:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
It know it is so exciting to find information regarding our family tree!  This summer I visited Gravesend, Kent for the first time and was able to see the house that William Skews had lived in and the surrounding area.  Fabulous!  I had wondered if any of my relatives had traveled to New Zealand and glad to hear about you.  My grandfather was Edward Skews, and he emigrated to Canada in the early 1900's.  They lived in Winnipeg, Manitoba and we moved to Vancouver many years ago.  I was in contact with Keith Skues and he was delighted to find another arm of the Skews family tree.  He did not know about my grandfather and his family in Canada and will add this to the revised book.  I would be delighted to share information, but we have just moved and all my notes are put away for safekeeping.  K contacted me not long ago and it has made me interested to pursue this once again, a little earlier than I had anticipated.  He has some wonderful information and is great at finding details!  Anything I can do to help, just let me know.  Cheers and have a great day!  Barbara (Skews) Kosick
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: sarah on Monday 14 December 15 14:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara,

One of your private messages to KSKS was sent to another member with a similiar name in error, just letting you know ;)

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Monday 14 December 15 16:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah
Thank you for the note.  Was my message forwarded on?
Please advise.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: sarah on Monday 14 December 15 18:30 GMT (UK)
No Barbara, I can not view the private messages so I could not pass it on ;)
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: KSKS on Monday 14 December 15 19:02 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sarah

Kind of you.
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: sueco79 on Friday 04 January 19 19:09 GMT (UK)
I have just been reading all this fascinating information and it been lovely to hear all that you have been saying as it has confirmed the information that I have found, William Skews 1787 is about my 4x great grandfather and I am a descendant of George skews. I have got stuck on finding William's parents and can only find his mother listed as Sarah, I was just wondering if you had been successful in tracing or finding out any more information?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: Barbarajk on Friday 04 January 19 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hello. I received your message re finding William Skews’ parents. I haven’t looked into this for some time now and enjoyed reading over all the information. No I haven’t found any further information on the Skews family tree, but would love too!  You are a descendant of George Skews?  Are you still in England?  I am located in Canada. Maybe we can share what we have found?
Title: Re: Skews, James Edward
Post by: sueco79 on Saturday 05 January 19 13:32 GMT (UK)
Hello, yes I am a descendant of George Skews, we are still in England. I am still getting my head round the Skews family tree (I am currently doing a couple of others at the same time). Can you remind me which Skews you a descendant from?