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Title: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Bluebike1 on Friday 24 January 14 07:34 GMT (UK)
When my great grandmother married my great grandfather, I see that she was previously married to a James Kirk .

There are notes on the extract that say he is/was a railway guard, but I cannot make out the rest.

Can anyone help?

Henry

 
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 January 14 07:41 GMT (UK)
I think it reads

from whom she was divorced 22 October 1927

Gadget
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: veeblevort on Friday 24 January 14 07:45 GMT (UK)
Agree  almost 100%

... from whom she was divorced 22nd October 1907

Not sure about third digit of year, but don't see it as a 2.

vv.
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 January 14 07:48 GMT (UK)
Just enlarged it and now think it is 1907 too  :)

The 2s have bottoms on them!
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 January 14 09:05 GMT (UK)
Interesting:

The NAS have the interim decree of divorce between James Kirk Junior and Isabella Kirk Kerr or Kirk as November 1909

Ref is CS46/1909/11/19

Isabella married William Wells 6 November 1909.

Gadget

Added:

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Date of decree : 22 October 1909
Warrant retransmitted to court

Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Bluebike1 on Saturday 25 January 14 15:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks all,

I thought that it might be divorce, because I could not find a registration of death.  Neither could I get the "from whom she was"  bit. Is it a knack?

I have a feeling that divorce was probably highly frowned upon and quite rare in the early 1900's.  Furthermore, she was Catholic.

What is the NAS  National Archives of Scotland ?  Hoe do you get into those records?

Thanks for the help

 
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 25 January 14 17:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Henry

NAS = National Archives of Scotland


Go to

http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/  and select SEARCH on the top bar.

I then  entered james kirk isabella in the 'Search for' box and selected 'All Words'

Then press 'Search' and then 'Display Catalogue results'

You will see their entry as the third entry. If you then click on the ref no (in blue to the left of the entry), the detailed info that I gave will be shown.

Their might be a quicker way of finding divorce records in the NAS catalogue but I don't know of it  :-\



Gadget
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 25 January 14 19:00 GMT (UK)
Just adding to all this great info by Gadget and vv.

With the refs that Gadget has provided, you can request a paper copy of records relating to this. Use the refs to request how much it would cost. Email details on site. Pretty much the cost of photocopy per page.

I would imagine (maybe wrong) that you may not be close to Edinbugh? If you are, you can look this up at the National Archives (now NRS) in Edinburgh.

Monica
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 25 January 14 19:11 GMT (UK)
Just in case you figure out more, there is this entry in 1901:

James Kirk 23 railway guard, b. Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbrightshire
Isabella Kirk 22 b. Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbrightshire
James Kirk 3 Months b. Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbrightshire

Address: 66 College St, Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire

Monica
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 25 January 14 19:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the extra info, Monica, I was going to have a look but you've saved me.

I forgot to say that James and Isabella married in Dumfries in 1899 - just across the bridge from Maxwelltown.

Haven't been there for 5 years - I think I need to visit again.  The Dumfries and Galloway FHS are very helpful and Dumfries is a really interesting place to visit (also some lush Italian restaurants  ;D  )


Gadget
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 25 January 14 19:59 GMT (UK)

...also some lush Italian restaurants  ;D


Just what we need on a wintry v. stormy night  ;)

Monica
Title: Re: James Kirk a Railway Guard from Dumfries
Post by: Bluebike1 on Monday 19 October 20 02:26 BST (UK)
Thanks all,

Isabella was my G Grandmother, my grandfather her son aftershe remarried to William Wells. I managed a trip to Dumfries and was able to visit the streets where Wiliam and Isabella lived.  Also  further afield around Dumfries, where other  ancestors lived.  This  site also helped me find  a cousin 3 times removed who is in Dumfries.  Unfortunately records are a bit hit and miss beyond 1841 and much is missing beyond that because on ten paternal  line, my ancestors were originaly Irish. Whilst there are some catholic records early 1800's the key one to idenfify the parents of my  3x G Grandfather, who was born in Dumfries, do not exist.  Further  suspect many deaths due Cholera were not recorded. So I have had to make a most likely to be assmption, based of cobling together what I have.