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Title: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: gordonbb on Wednesday 22 January 14 12:17 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm hoping the experts here can help me date this (http://wildscotsman.smugmug.com/History/SuesMysteryPhotos/i-F9K3Hkk) photo a cousin received recently. It is a silver gelatine or some other non albumen print on cabinet card stock and the scalloped edges are gilded. No image of the back is available as the card is mounted in an album.
(http://wildscotsman.smugmug.com/History/SuesMysteryPhotos/i-F9K3Hkk/0/L/Picture%20001-L.jpg)
No restore requested please.

I do know when the photographer was in business at this location but I don't want to colour your judgement.

Regards,

Bruce
Title: Re: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 22 January 14 14:36 GMT (UK)
As is often the case the woman holds the best dating clue.
Her bodice with the raised shoulder known as a kick-up was a short lived style from 1889-93.
Looks like it was taken at the time of the baby's Christening.
Very unusual to see such a fancy card from this time.

jim
Title: Re: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: gordonbb on Wednesday 22 January 14 15:11 GMT (UK)
As is often the case the woman holds the best dating clue.
Her bodice with the raised shoulder known as a kick-up was a short lived style from 1889-93.
Looks like it was taken at the time of the baby's Christening.
Very unusual to see such a fancy card from this time.

jim
Thanks Jim.

That helps a lot. My cousin (very distant) is trying to establish if the young man standing at the back is the same as this one:
(http://wildscotsman.smugmug.com/History/SuesMysteryPhotos/i-C7ck72L/0/L/unknown%20soldier-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 22 January 14 15:23 GMT (UK)
It depends on when the 2nd. one was taken. The boy looks to be 8-10 yo. So born 1880-5.
If the other was c. 1914 he would be 30ish & he doesn't look that old to me.
Title: Re: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: ymfoster on Thursday 23 January 14 05:05 GMT (UK)
His features are very alike, maybe it's his younger brother ?

Yvonne
Title: Re: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: Eley on Saturday 25 January 14 04:51 GMT (UK)
I am the owner of the photos. I have a birthdate of the the person I'm hoping is the soldier, August 1891.  The person enlisted 1915, I just don't have a way of identifying him.  I'm trying process of elimination.

So I guess that doesn't fit with the dating of the family photo.  Therefore I suppose the boy in the background can't be the soldier. Thanks for your input. 
Title: Re: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 25 January 14 10:39 GMT (UK)
If there's any relationship at all if would have to be the baby assuming it's a boy.

jim
Title: Re: Date of Emery Family Photo
Post by: gordonbb on Tuesday 28 January 14 19:30 GMT (UK)
The soldier we are looking for was born in 1891 and his attestation papers were signed in Nov 1915. He was reported "missing presumed dead" at the beginning of October 1916. So in the second photograph he would have been 23 or 24.

The family had issue:

1891 - Soldier
1895 - Daughter
1897 - Daughter (died in 1891)
1898 - Daughter
1901 - Son
1903 - Daughter
1905 - Daughter
1908 - Daughter
1910 - Daughter
1912 - Daughter
1914 - Daughter

Looking at the picture I would say the little boy is about 2 and his sister 3 or 4.

So my guess is picture is of the christening of the daughter born in 1903:

Soldier: - about 12
daughter - either 8 or 5 (one is missing)
son - aged 2
infant