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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gloucestershire => England => Gloucestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: davierj on Monday 20 January 14 16:22 GMT (UK)
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Request lookup in 1841 census for Jane Hinton, born about 1824 in Marshfield. She married George Fishlock 16 Jan 1847 in Marshfield. There are a number of Hinton families in Marshfield in 1851 but I am unable to link Jane to any of them. Hopefully the 1841 will show her parents and if anyone has access to baptisms for Marshfield that would be equally as good if not better :)
Dave
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Transcribed as Henton? Living at High St Marshfield. All born in County
Thos Henton 50 Ag Lab
Mary Henton 50
Jane Henton 15
Kay
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The same family in 1851 Living at Main St Marshfield and all born in the village
Thomas Hinton 61 Ag Lab
Mary Hinton 63 Pauper
Septimas Yeeles 38 Lodger
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1861 Still at the same address - All born in the village
Thomas Hinton 71 Labourer
Mary Hinton 73
Septimus Yeals 48 Lodger
Isaac Davies 17 Lodger
Thomas Fishlock 12 Grandson
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Thank you Kay, that's fixed her parents. The grandson mentioned in 1861 could well be Jane's son, Thomas Hinton Fishlock, bap 28 Jan 1848.
Dave
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On second thoughts, he is with his parents in 1861 ???
Dave
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It is possible he was double counted if that night he happened to be with his grandparents but his parents had counted him as usually at home. :D
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You could be right, just like the old school photos where you have your picture taken at one end and run to the other end and beat the camera. Lots of identical twins in those days ;D
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;D
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Hi,
From Gloucestershire Baptism Index 1813-1837
Jane Hinton bap. 30th July 1823
Parents: Thomas (Occ: Labourer) and Mary
Parish: Marshfield
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George Hinton bap. 24th June 1821
Same parents, same parish
Sue
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Thanks Sue, that's great.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Source: Gloucestershire Family History Society (GFHS), Gloucestershire Baptism Index 1813-1837:-
Jane HINTON, dau of Thomas & Mary, a Labourer of Marshfield, baptised at Marshfield 30th July 1823
Source: GFHS, Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837:-
Thomas HINTON married Mary WALKER at Marshfield 17th July 1813, by Banns
Victor :)
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Hi Dave,
I found 1 more baptism for a child of Thomas & Mary HINTON at Marshfield:-
24/06/1821, George HINTON, born 04/06/1821
Victor
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Victor, that's great. The marriage has introduced the Walker family into Marshfield. Our ancestors come from the Marshfield/Cold Ashton area of Gloucestershire and neighbouring Castle Combe and North Somerset.
Thanks Dave
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Hi Dave,
Glad to help. I have various amounts of data for Marshfield & Cold Aston, and also access to North Somerset Marriages 1754-1837. I also do lookups for RootsChatters at Gloucestershire Archives who hold the following PRs:-
Holy Trinity, Cold Aston - Baptisms 1734-1870, Marriages 1734-1837 & Burials 1734-1942. Subsequent PRs are held at Bristol Records Office.
St Mary the Virgin, Marshfield - Baptisms 1558-1970, Marriages 1572-1912 & Burials 1567-1939.
Again, subsequent PRs are held at Bristol Records Office.
If I can be of any further assistance do ask.
Victor
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Thanks Victor, it's very much appreciated. I used to do much the same thing when I lived in North Wiltshire, visiting the Records Office in Trowbridge and more recently Chippenham after the move. Unfortunately I'm unable to do so now since moving to Spain.
I have a family interest in the Milliner family of Cold Ashton, but have only been able to trace as far back as about 1790 as the parish records do not exist before that date (or didn't in Bristol). Because of this I have been unable to link this family to others outside Cold Ashton. The earliest I have is Isaac Milliner, born about 1787 and his wife Margaret Wait or Witt who he married 20 April 1812 in Cold Ashton. As was customary, later members of the family married into Marshfield families such as the Fishlocks, hence my interest in that village also.
Any thoughts on the Milliner family prior to about 1800 greatly appreciated.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I have checked the Phillimore marriages at Cold Aston, 1734-1811 and there is NO record of any Milliner marriages.
I have also checked the Gloucestershire Family History Society GFHS) Gloucestershire Marriages 1800-1837 and also found NO Milliner marriages.
The GFHS Gloucestershire Baptism Index 1800-1837 lists one possible baptism:-
Ann MILLINDER, dau of ? and Ann, a Labourer of Cold Aston, baptised 25th December 1816 at Holy Trinity, Cold Aston.
I shall be back in Glos Archives next Saturday and will let you know of any further data I find.
Victor
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Hi Dave,
One further thought. Is the parish Cold Aston near Bourton-on-the-Water or Cold Ashton in South Gloucestershire?
Victor
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Hi Victor,
Cold Ashton just down the road from Marshfield. I had the marriage from Cold Ashton PRs, I guess from Bristol record office in 2006. Both Isaac and Margaret were from Cold Ashton, marriage by banns and witnesses were Matthew Strange and Robert Lewis. Isaac and Margaret featured in the 1851 census under the name of Millinder. Son William later farmed Folly Farm just to the south of the village and his second wife was Mary Fishlock from Marshfield. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if it were the wrong Cold Ashton. If you wish you can touch the middle icon below the photo of Wiltshire Woodland (taken in the woods above the car park on the A4 just west of Beckhampton roundabout) and look at the family on Welsh Connection.
I look forward to any information you may find on the Milliners.
Thanks, Dave
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Hi Dave,
The microfiche record for Holy Trinity, Cold Ashton, 1734-1778 is unreadable. I have ordered the Parish Record (PR) to look at for next Tuesday.
Source: Glos Archives (GA) PFC 23 IN 1/4 1, Holy Trinity, Cold Ashton, Banns & Marriages:-
The Banns of Marriage between Isaac MILLINER, Bachelor, and Margaret WITTS, both of this parish, were duly published in the Church of Cold Aston on the three following Sundays. Nothing entered!
This marriage was solemnized between the parties the 20th of April 1812 by John BATCHELOR, Clerk.
Isaac MILLINER Mark X, Margate WITTS Mark X, Matthew STRANGE Mark X and Robert LEWIS (NB; Signs at marriages often).
I thought I'd look for any baptisms for their children post-marriage and only found the following:-
Source: GA, PFC 23 IN 1/3 1, Holy Trinity, Cold Ashton, Baptisms:-
25th December, Anne, dau of ? & Ann MILLINDER, a Labourer of Cold Aston. There were NO baptisms after this date. The father's name looked like Isaac but has been crossed out.
I will get back to you if I discover any further MILLINER entries if GA have retained the PR rather than hand it to Bristol Records Office.
Victor
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Hi Victor,
That's great. I had Isaac's marriage but was unsure of his wife's surname. As far as I was aware they had at least 2 children, names gleaned from census. Robert Milliner born about 1817 in Batheaston, he married but was childless. William Milliner born about 1822 in Cold Ashton. In 1851 census he was 29 living with his parents. The 1871 census shows him living with his family at Woodwards Cottage, Cold Ashton, but place of birth given as Dyrham, Glos. Our family is descended from him.
It would be wonderfuL if you could trace Isaac Milliner's and Margaret Witt's forbears and any children's baptisms. I have son William's children's baptisms - with his first wife Elizabeth - Reuben 1846 and Emma 1848, - with his second wife Mary - Phillis 1856, Nun 1861 and Lot 1864.
Thanks again, Dave
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Hi Dave,
I have now checked the Bristol & Avon Family History Society, Baptismal, Marriage & Burial Registers Collection, 1754-1837 and only found the earlier baptism I posted:-
Ann MILLINDER, daughter of Isaac & Sarah, baptised 25th December 1816, at Cold Ashton.
Let's see what transpires next Tuesday.
Victor
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How odd, perhaps there were 2 Milliner families although I've not found any evidence of this. It is confusing that the parents of Ann were Isaac and Sarah.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
The only extra data I can add are the following MILLINER marriages:-
Isaac MILLINER married Hannah BOWAY, 16th August 1784, at Wapley & Codrington.
Jacob MILLINER married Mary TYLER, 13th October 1801, at Almondsbury.
Jacob MILLINER married Eleanor HALL, 8th February 1809, at Marshfield.
James MILLINER married Mary ROACH, 27th April 1808, at Iron Acton.
Victor
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Thanks Victor, it looks as if the early Cold Ashton Milliners remain lost in the mists of time.
Dave
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Good evening , I am trying to trace one of my relatives from the forest of dean. His name is Charles Hinton born around 1835. His father was Thomas Hinton. Did you Thomas Hinton have a son that was named Charles. I know Charles father was a labrour and Charles was married in Coleford, however I have been unable to find any birth records or records from the 1841 cenus.
Any help you could provide would be appreciated.
Cheers
Sally
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Hi Sally,
Try the Forest of Dean website. You will need to sign up as a member, but it is free.
www.forest-of-dean.org.uk
Victor
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Thank you Victor
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Victor I as interested to see you have done some research on Ann. I have also checked the baptism and can see her mother was Ann (not Sarah), and father was given as James and then what looks like Isaac added above. Did you find out any more? thanks James
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Hi James,
I only have access to the 1841 Census for Sudeley Manor & Winchombe, having transcribed and printed it many years ago.
I am currently confined to barracks due to ill health and see no prospect of visiting Glos Archives in the near future. I can only offer a range of data, for Glos, Oxon, Salop & Wilts, from my own CDs.
Your request doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Can you give me more detail including surnames.
Victor
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Victor, sorry I am referring to Ann Milliner (Millinder). Baptised 25 December 1816. Her mother is given as Ann (the father is James then crossed out with Isaac). regards James
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Gloucestershire Marriage Index pre 1800
Isaac MILLENER married Alice PRATER at Little Sodbury - 13 January 1794
Gloucestershire Burial Index
Isaac MILLINDER age 54 : residence: Withymoor - buried at Hawkesbury - 9 November 1817
Isaac MILLENER aged 15 - buried at Old Sodbury - 11 March 1832
Gloucestershire Baptism Index
at Hawkesbury
William MILLENER - 11 August 1822, son of Isaac (labourer) & Sarah
(Isaac MILLINER married Sarah BOND at Hawkesbury - 1 March 1811)