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I am researching the Mcintee family mainly living in Greenrow Greenhill Swansea . Father John Mcintee born around 1864 died 1929 any info would be most welcomed . Also any photos of Dyfatty School Swansea wales. ;D thanking you
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hi,,can you tell us what info you already have,,to avoid repetition,,,,and what exactly you would like to find out? cheers GB ;)
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We are struggling to find his birth. In census s and marriage and death it gives 1864 with a variety of places , isle of ryde , Greenhill swansea . On army papers 4 or 5 years later.St josephs area swansea wales given as place of birth. .he put old road as place of living in 1885 , swansea but no one ever heard of it. He married mary owens in this year. His father was john and was a labourer he was dead at time of marriage . Had andrew mcintee as witness so possibly could be johns brother .talk that mcintee s came from near cork originally. My head is frying lol.
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can you give details of what army record you are referring to?
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The royal garrison artillery glamorgan . Said born in 1968. Someone also researching found this info out and sent it too me but not heard from them in a while. We only have info on john mcintee from the time he was married 1885. I cannot find a census before this with him on or as I said birth . He is the elusive mcintee :)
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1891 census - is this the family?
Class: RG12; Piece: 4480; Folio: 95; Page: 26
1 Green Row, Swansea
McIntee, John Head M 26 Dock Labourer
McIntee, Mary Wife F 26
McIntee, John Son M 8 Scholar
McIntee, William Son M 6 Scholar
McIntee, Andrew Son M 2
McIntee, Thomas Son M 1 all born Swansea, Glamorganshire
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But, looks like the same family with a different surname in 1901?
Class: RG13; Piece: 5078; Folio: 99; Page: 27
12 Green Row, Swansea
MacKintyre, John Head M 37 General Labourer ?? Works b Ryde, Isle of Wight
MacKintyre, Mary Wife F 37
MacKintyre, John Son M 19 General Labourer
MacKintyre, William M 15 General Labourer
MacKintyre, Andrew Son M 12
MacKintyre, Michael Son M 8
MacKintyre, Mary J Daughter F 6
MacKintyre, James Son M 11 months All born Swansea, except father.
Back to McIntee in 1911!
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Yes thats def them , mary jane is my great grandmother. It did differ on the forms.Andrew mcintee on marriage certificate is spelt mackintee.Later on some of the family changed their name to Murray.
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I was told that a john mcintee was statiomed in Portsmouth in 1961 maybe a connection and also a john mcintee was dischared from the infantry brigade depot 72nd on 20 jan 1883 he said the discharge papers had no other info. This was from same perwon who found out about royal garrison.
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My paternal grandmother was Bridget Mackintee, she was married to / living with my grandfather in Greenhill Swansea in one of the pre 1900s census reports (I will look it up).
My grandfathers name was Frederick Ricketts Long.
If Bridget is part of the same family and this would be my first connection for her.
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I would say she was definitely related :)
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Hi Dee thanks for the quick reply,
Just looked up the details again, it was the 1911 census and their address was 1 Owens Court Greenhill Swansea , at the time of the census she was 24 had 3 children already Bridget is listed as coming from Swansea although all of the children Gloucester has their birthplace.
They had been married for 6 years in 1911 according to the census however I have an army letter from during the first war that suggest they were not married, my father was born 1923 and had I believe 5 siblings.
My Grandfather is listed as being born in Cheltenham but i think he was from Axe in Somerset but I know he grew up in Dursley .
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Therevis definitely a connection , I ll take a look at my records. She may be a sister or a cousin. Mcintees were irish n greenhill was were they all lived at this peculiar time.
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My cousin said on the census gl was glamorgan but people confused it with gloucester
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On john mcintees wedding certificate it had andrew mackintee as a witness we are wondering if he was johns brother, as we know nothing of him previously to his marriage ... not even his birth. This could possibly be Bridgets dad or even andrew n john could be her uncles. There is a definite family connection with the mcintee name. It would be interesting to look at the census street list n see if anymore mcintees lived on owen street, a few lived on greenrow greenhill. Maybe we could look at owen st n see. Be interesting to find out. I do know johns dad was a john aswell n deceased at the time of john jnrs wedding which off the top of my head was 1885
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Hi,
Have you got these ?
Andrew Mcintee , Sept qrt ( death) 1915 Swansea - estimated birth 1861
maybe your Andrew on the marriage cert.
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This may be related too - An Andrew Mackintee from "Green row" was charged with stealing in 1899.
http://papuraunewyddcymru.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3342667/ART9/mackintee
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Soldiers effects 24/4 /1916:
Andrew Mackintee reg no 11643 , listed on his record are sisters Bridget Long , Mary O'Brien and mother Mary. He resided in Aberavon at the time of his service.
Birth Place:
Swansea ,Residence Aberavon
Enlistment Place Llanelly
Rank Private
Welsh Regiment
8th Battalion
Regimental Number 11643
Killed in action
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1657592/MACKINTEE,%20ANDREW
Apparently he was wounded in 1915 too
http://papuraunewyddcymru.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/4099994/ART72/mackintee
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John mcintee https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHYR-C71 his record is on Findmypast ( I haven't got a sub)
Kind Regards :)
Ps Have you got Bridget in the 1891? If not, I think this is her lodging in Carmarthen with her mother Mary and siblings Andrew and Mary ( I noticed that her brother Andrew joined up with the army in Carmarthenshire) .The Mother Mary is from London (occupation Pedlar and married, but no husband in the house with her) - She is under the name of "McIntee"
Bridget's oldest sibling Mary ( born abt 1884) is born in Cardiff, whilst Bridget and her brother Andrew are listed as being born in Swansea
( piece 4518 folio 16 page 13)
PPs Dee , regarding the children's births it definitely says Gloucester and not gl for glamorgan
If you check free BMD you will find the children's births.
I haven't checked them all except one of them , but they'll be easy enough to find
Here's one of their births:
she was registered in the Jan/feb/march quarter of 1908
Long Mary Frances B Gloucester 6a 313
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Kind regards :)
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Hi,
A bit more info for you:
With a search of the BMD's - I think this is Bridget’s birth Sept qrt 1885 Bridget Macentee Swansea 11a 728 . I searched with just a Christian name of Bridget in Glamorgan to return all surnames – this is the closest match. None of the other Bridget births have a surname that is remotely like Mackintee.
If you haven't got her birth cert, I think it maybe your best bet is to order it to try and trace her family back and sidewards (or you could order her brother Andrew's birth cert ). If I have found the right family in 1891 , (which I think I have as Andrew’s effects lists his sisters married surnames) , I think it will be difficult finding her family any further back than the 1891 census without more info, such as a father’s name, or knowing Mary's maiden name. Mary (Bridget's mother) is not an uncommon name, and her presumed married name of Mackintee could be under anything . I couldn’t find Bridget in 1901, do you have her in 1901?
On Frederick’s army record (1919) , which you probably have because you mentioned a letter (?) - the dates of birth of Bridget’s and Fredrick’s children:
Frederick 22/8/1906 born Walsall
Mary Francis Bridget 13/12/1907 B Gloucester (this matches the birth reg in the 1st qrt of 1908)
Kathleen 6/3/1911 B Swansea
John Albert 1/3/1913 B Cheltenham
Elizabeth Jane 3/6/1917 b Cheltenham
Next of Kin Bridget.
7 Waterloo st, Cheltenham (unmarried wife is written on the record)
It doesn’t look if they married ,according to his army record they were unmarried. Along With his army record there is also a letter from the army and a letter to the army from Bridget regarding this. I also searched for a marriage.
Hope that helps
Kind Regards :)
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At present I am thinking that andrew married to bridget is my great great grandfather john mcintees brother. We only suspect as births are similar and on johns marriage certificate was an andrew mackintee as a witness. I am sure my cousin who knows more than me has info on their time in service. John did go in later in life and it is that record you sent. We are not sure what happened as his address was correct but from his marriage certificate it has his dob as 1864 and the time in service dob as 1868.this is were it goes cold as the only family members of pure mcintee are andrew as witness and father john on wedding certificate, on here it has the father as deceased and a labourer. We have come across a bridget before but are not sure. I will have a look at the address s in that street if I can access them as we let our subscription slide this yr. I will be in touch but my mums just been rushed into hospital so may take me little while . Thanks for your help I will definitely be in touch Dee
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Confusing ... sorry thinking bridget is andrews daughter ( therefore my johns possible niece ) sorry my brain not with it. I passed all info onto my cousin in swansea to check his record s