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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: cunners on Friday 17 January 14 08:47 GMT (UK)
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Morning everyone,
I'm just looking to see if anyone knows anything about a barracks in Linthorpe, Middlesbrough. My ancestors have Barracks, Linthorpe as their address on their marriage certificate from 1860, on the 1861 census, and on a birth certificate of their child from the same year. The address is 24 Barracks. Does anyone know anything about this place? I've done plenty of googling but can't find anything about any kind of army barracks in Middlesbrough. I'm beginning to think that maybe it is a Salvation Army "barracks", but I'm not sure they would be so large as to hold at least 24 families. If anyone can shed any light it'd be appreciated.
Thanks.
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1860 would be a little too early for the Salvation Army.
I would guess that this was either the site of an old militia barracks, or an 1850's housing development that was known as "Barracks" (or both)
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perhaps if you gave us the details of the people then we could take alook for ourselves to figure it out?
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in 1861 it starts at RG9/3689 folio 9 page 11
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Hi, thanks for the replies.
I guess a map would help but again I have not found one for that time. Barracks seems an odd name for a housing development though, my first thought would be Army but he is listed as a Puddler working in the Iron Works. Maybe it was employee housing but it would be far away being in Linthorpe.
The family I am interested in is the Cunninghams, John Cunningham and Margaret Cunningham nee Wilkinson. They had a son in 1861 John James Cunningham. They were part of a long line of Cunningham iron and steel workers.
Marriage cert can be seen here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylledo4s2uyxq01/Marriage-1860-John%20Cunningham%20and%20Margaret%20Wilkinson.jpeg
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See this thread about a housing development in Middlesbrough known locally as "Barracks" - is it the same area ? http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=586633.0
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Although the 1861 and 1871 censuses place "Barracks" and "Barracks Houses" in the Parish of Linthorpe, it's also clear that they are in Middlesbrough, close to the coal yards and the railway, close to Florence Street and Commercial Street.
This 1861 OS map shows "Barracks" as an alternative name for Port Darlington
http://visionofbritain.org.uk/iipmooviewer/iipmooviewer_new.html?map=first_edition/lm_103se
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I see, thanks for your help on this.
My John Cunningham the elder dissapears after the 1961 census and his wife remarries a mccann who is listed as a boarder with her and the kids in 1971 where she is shown as a widow. John is listed as deceased on his son John James's marriage certificate. I cant find a death record for him locally, and one in scarborough that fits the date is not his, its for an infant. I figured if the barracks was army related maybe he died in service but I think it's safe to assume it is not military related. I have no idea where he died.
Thanks for all the help and the time you put in. Great map by the way, saving that link.
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i have just looked them up on the 1861 cencus,john born in scarborough but if you go back to the beginning of the barrack numbers you will see that it states "London and Middlesbrough shipping office and coal depot snowdons office and blast furnace" to help you find that area now if you look up Snowdon road Middlesbrough on google maps you will see its all an industrial estate now.
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go on www.old-maps.co.uk and put these co ordinates into it 449135 and then 521421 and then click the 1859 maps and it will show a pic of the barracks and where abouts they actually are, in todays maps if you look at the junction of forty foot road and depot road and turn left they are a few yards along there on the right a.v. dawson currently stands on the site of the barracks
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There was a topic some time ago on The Barracks in Station St. Middlesbrough,
James
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Most family historians eventually come to realise that the saying "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there", is often quite apt. And that is definitely so in the case of the word "Barracks". The word was originally taken to mean any form of intensive basic accommodation. In the nineteenth century the movement into the towns from the country meant there was need for very basic accommodation for the needy masses and "The Barracks" were to be found all over England. Much of it survived into the early twentieth century, often having degenerated into insanitary slums. Fortunately such accommodation was removed following the various improvement acts and so we now tend to see the word as having only military connections. I know about this because my ancestors lived in such accommodation, despite the denials of elderly aunts who would rather choke than utter the word.
Imber