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Still trying to find some of my great grandfathers siblings.I have recently found out from my mum's 93 year old cousin that my great grandfather was the 7th son of a 7th son. So far I have only found my great grandad James Cherry and 2 brothers William and John all born between 1830 and 1843 and 1 sister Sarah.William said on a poorlaw document in Glasgow that he was born in Ballymaglaff Comber.William married his 1st wife in Gilnahirk Parish Church .James his 1st wife in Newtonards Registry office and John married in Glasgow Episcopal Church. So there are 4 brothers unaccounted for,Perhaps they remained in Ireland.[Other sons family names of the next generation were Thomas,Moses,William,James,John,Charles and Robert] I have been searching for years now but I didn't know that there were 7 till recently.Also cannot find a marriage for the parents James Cherry and Mary Rice.which would have been about 1825-1830 Any help appreciated thanks.
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You haven't half done well
Is your Moses this Moses
Cherry, Moses, Comber, T/2771/8A, in www.proni.gov.uk www.proni.gov.uk
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Not sure the Moses I have was born in Glasgow grandson of James Cherry born c 1843] of Newtonards and Grace McCreadie from Wishaw and brother of my grandad John Cherry.[1885] I was just wondering if any of James's[1843] brothers were called Moses as it's not a very common name.
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Have you been in contact with valerie Kerr at Wiki genealogy cherry tree
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Thanks for reply No I don't remember contacting her
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Hi
I am connected to the cherry’s of Raffrey,Ballytrim, Ballyalgin County Down. Have you done a DNA TEST ON ancestry???
I’m also stuck on a few of my ancestors, I have always wondered are the cherry’s of Clough, Ards, Dromore, Lisburn and Raffrey connected???
I would love to compare trees.
Thanks
Andy
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Hi
I am connected to the cherry’s of Raffrey,Ballytrim, Ballyalgin County Down. Have you done a DNA TEST ON ancestry???
I’m also stuck on a few of my ancestors, I have always wondered are the cherry’s of Clough, Ards, Dromore, Lisburn and Raffrey connected???
I would love to compare trees.
Thanks
Andy
See new topic-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=829485.msg6937748
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Hi Andy No I haven't had a DNA test as yet all I have found so far on my Cherrys has been in Glasgow looking up poor law records censuses bmd certs and As I wrote in previous messages on the site it was on a poor law that said that that he was born in Ballyaglaff in Comer 10 miles outside of Belfast then on my gt grandad's 1st marriage cert to Mary Jane McWhinney at that time 1869 he was living in East St Newtownards I got the cert from Dublin as I said I have only found my gt granda James Cherry,b circa 1843 brother William circa 1831 brother John c1842 and sister Sarah c 1838 so 3 brothers and I know from my late relative there should be 4 more brothers the only other thing I found was William's marriage to Margaret Boyd in Gilnahirk parish Church in 1852 and in Glasgow again on a birth cert of Sarah and Arthur Thomson's daughter in Holytown Lanark it says parents married in Killalay That's all I have so far.on the Arthur Thomson's death cert he drowned at work it said his father was Dec William Thomson a shopkeeper and his mother Agnes Capeillton of County Down Regards Josie
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.........he was born in Ballyaglaff in Comer 10 miles outside of Belfast..........
........the only other thing I found was William's marriage to Margaret Boyd in Gilnahirk parish Church in 1852........
Ballymaglaff townland in Comber CP on the outskirts of Belfast
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-lower/comber-castlereagh-lower-portion/ballymaglaff/
Marriage – 23rd July 1853
William Cherry & Margaret Boyd in Gilnahirk Presbyterian Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1853/09445/5421766.pdf
KG
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Hi Josie
I unfortunately don't have any more information on those Cherrys, But recently through DNA on ancestry.co.uk I have found a link to a Moses and Hamilton Cherry who lived in Newtownards before heading off to America. They were of Scottish parents. I would recommend ancestry.co.uk and the use of DNA and the benefits of everyone doing it through the same site. I have been able to find lots of relatives through DNA. Unfortunately here in Ireland that's our best hope of finding more connections past the 1800's. Also it would very unfortunate that we are not connected somehow as Ballymaglaff is only 18 minute drive from Raffrey.
Was the father of James and William - James also?
"birth cert of Sarah and Arthur Thomson's daughter in Holytown Lanark it says parents married in Killalay" is that meant to be Killyleagh not Killalay??
7th son of 7 sons. That alot of Cherry's!
Cheers
Andy
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Hi Andy do you know if there are any old Church records for these areas as I have never found any marriage records for my great great grandad James Cherry and Mary Rice if their son William was born about 1831 it would have been before this date Wish I knew what number William was in the 7 sons in all the births i've found the first son was always James and first daughter Mary except in this case where James my gt grandad was in 1843. Been looking for them since 2000.maybe strike gold one day .Regards Josie
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Hi
Do you know what church they are connected too?
Try Familysearch.org - check out there catelogs.
I got Raffrey marriages- 1851
Killinchy - 1836
Boardmills - 1828
They have lots of churchs, you might get lucky!
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All i know is that they were Presbyterian in Glasgow one of James sons married in the Congregational Church oanother married in the Episcopal Church and the other in Gilnahirk parish church Josie
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.......and the other in Gilnahirk parish church.......
Marriage – 23rd July 1853
William Cherry & Margaret Boyd in Gilnahirk Presbyterian Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1853/09445/5421766.pdf
KG
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Another correction-
... my gt grandad's 1st marriage cert to Mary Jane McWhinney at that time 1869 he was living in East St Newtownards I got the cert from Dublin ...
The marriage was 1867 NOT 1869- James' age given as 25 so born c1842-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11510/8233253.pdf
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Ancestry online tree lists children of James Cherry & Mary Rice, etc. Only 5 sons & 4 daughters and places are a bit strangely written but worth having a look for details you can verify or rule out yourself.
Two other family trees also on Ancestry also contain some details which don't look likely.