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Hi all,
Just come across this in my TV paper & thought that I would bring it to others attention in case they wanted to watch it as well.
Who Do You Think You Are - USA featuring actress Christina Applegate. BBC1 11.20pm tonight (13th Jan 2014), 45 minutes in length.
Kind regards
David
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Thanks, I've just set Sky+ to record it.
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Me too! I don't always know the American Celebrities but I always enjoy watching it :)
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Although this episode was very narrow in that it was all about Christina Applegate's grandmother, it was very moving and well worth watching.
I hope the rest of the series is to be shown as well. :-\
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Hi all
I was going to start a post about this episode because I'm was confused by it at the end. I really don't want to spoil it for those who have not seen it (so look away now if this is you!)..- It's the bit at the end in the Cemetery office - we see the card that names who is in the plot (very briefly). It looks like Orvid Shaw, Lavina Shaw, Delilah Shaw (the Aunt to Bob) and then we see that there is a plot for Bob (Christina's Father) it has his full name Robert William Applegate (and the notation grandson next to it) but Christina says to her Dad "Look your Mum (who was also a Lavina) loved you so much and wanted you buried with her etc.. " Later we see that Bob gets a headstone with Orvid, Lavina & Delilah's name and the inscription (something like) Found you Mom!
So, I would think that the Lavina Shaw in the grave would be Bob's grandmother wouldn't you? I mean if she is not in that grave, which is obviously a family plot where is she? Bob's Mom who was also a Lavina had been married twice once to an Applegate and then to a Walton. So at death surely she was Lavina Walton :-\ :-\
I do know these things are heavily edited - but maybe someone could clarify this for me! It was late maybe I just wasn't watching properly. Anyway, It really has been bugging me.
Thanks!
CD
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If you go to the comments about this episode on IMDB it explains a bit more.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1365047/board/flat/217757136
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Hi,
I was a bit confused too after watching this last night, but I recorded it, so have just watched it again to see if I can sort it out. From the card shown it seemed that the burial plot was for Ovid Shaw, Delilah, and Lavina V. Shaw with a space for Robert William, but it didn't say where Lavina's mother (also Lavina, nee Weaver) was buried. Lavina Victorine's death certificate stated she was buried at that cemetery. Perhaps the mother was buried in a Weaver family plot? Lots there that we family history addicts would have investigated further!
I also noticed that the newspaper article about the sisters Lavina and Delilah mentioned that of the couple they visited, the wife was the former Miss Grace McGhee, the niece of Mrs Jennis Weaver, grandmother of the Misses Shaw. So as I say, more names which the likes of us would research!
Ann
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Hi all
Thanks Bev for the link - glad I'm not the only one that was confused. Someone on the website you gave the link to did indeed seem to suggest that the Grandmother Lavina Shaw was buried in the Weaver plot. (Well surmised quest40). Some of the posters go on to discuss that the administrator of the plot was this Constant charactor and also that Delilah also died young of malnutrition.
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I wondered why (on screen at least) they didn't look at the date that the mother re-married to Mr.Walton, to see if the data corresponded to when Ms.Applegate's father Robert was told his mother had died a horrible death, rather than the perceived 5 year gap between the young Robert being told and the actual death. Wouldn't be the first time in-laws have made up a story out of spite.
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Just watched this episode on BBC iPlayer. :)
Very moving and intriguing episode which has left me with lots of questions (which are none of my business :P).
I think the series just skims the surface sometimes and leaves out other information. Like when did Lavina Shaw marry again, why did her sister die young too. And was it just me....or was it maybe the father of Lavina who bought/ organised the plot and left instructions as to who the plot was for?
Have to say I'm not as keen on US WDYTYA (Sorry :() - it always seems so rushed and the constant upbeat music annoys me. That said I will watch the series and look forward to Jim Parsons ( Sheldon my fav character from Big Bang Theory),
Looby :)
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That said I will watch the series and look forward to Jim Parsons ( Sheldon my fav character from Big Bang Theory),
That's the one I'm most looking forward to as well. ;)
Kelly Clarkson next week.
B.
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Thanks for the steer, David, just watched the episode on iplayer. I expected more weeping being from the US but Christine was fairly controlled. I thought it was so moving that she put her father's mind at rest about the effect of his own parenting.
We are lucky here to get an hour's programme, that was only 40 mins so no wonder the tale needs to be focussed on fewer ancestral lines.
Josey
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Thank you for posting this, I would have missed it completely if you hadn't.
It was sad in many ways.
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Thanks also set the sky box :) :) :)
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We are lucky here to get an hour's programme, that was only 40 mins so no wonder the tale needs to be focussed on fewer ancestral lines.
I noticed that as well. I assume that, within every hour of programming, our friends in the US have to endure 20 minutes of advertising.
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Yes spot on. The time difference will be adverts.
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Just caught up on the programme. I did enjoy it even though there were a few loose ends. I noticed that on Lavinia Shaw/Applegate/Walton's death notice in the newspaper, it said that she was survived by a half brother, Victor Shaw. We didn't hear anything about him though. There is often a lot to tell in only 40 minutes so I suppose a lot has to be left out.
Looking forward to Chris O'Donnell. I like him on NCIS Los Angeles!
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Yes, we have to endure the commercials as was not on PBS :-\
Chris O'Donnell..... Was good ....... and a bit of a surprise (from what I was expecting).
Murphy
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Did anyone see Kelly Clarkson last night? An interesting story however, there was rather too much hugging for me. :(
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If any consolation, Kelly Clarkson was the most insipid (IMO) story in this season
Was the first one of the series shown in the US.
Murphy
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Just watched this episode on BBC iPlayer. :)
Have to say I'm not as keen on US WDYTYA (Sorry :() - it always seems so rushed and the constant upbeat music annoys me. That said I will watch the series and look forward to Jim Parsons ( Sheldon my fav character from Big Bang Theory),
Looby :)
Thanks for that - hadn't realised 'Sheldon' was one of the subjects. He's great, isn't he? have you yet found yourself knocking 3 times on a door and saying the person inside's name, over and over!! I have!! I shan't miss that one.
I didn't know who Christina Applegate is and she got on my nerves with her constantly saying 'Okay..' before the rest of every sentence. It got so that was all I heard!
Don't know who Kelly Clarkson is either - but I recorded it anyway.
Jill
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So far, I think the two episodes are an improvement on the previous series. I'm quite enjoying them.
Christina Applegate's story was so sad, clearly done for her father. Not one to be watched without a tissue to hand.
Kelly's hugs got on my nerves too plus she talked so fast it was annoying. Her ancestor on the on the other hand was an amazing find.
Jc
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I found the story in the Kelly Clarkson episode very interesting as I also have an ancestor who was in the Civil War so to find out more about conditions etc, was very welcome.
I do agree with previous posts though - too much hugging and also too many "Oh my God," "Cool" and "awesome" moments!
It doesn't seem to be on the schedule for next week. ??? Hope they haven't dropped it.
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I think they said they were giving it a weeks break because of the Winter Olympics.
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I liked the way she regaled us with her thoughts on the Civil War yet had never even heard of the infamous Andersonville prison. Too much hugging, too many 'wows' and when she had to ask what 'temperance' was I nearly fell off my chair. I stuck with it mainly as the ancestor in question had an interesting story.
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I think they said they were giving it a weeks break because of the Winter Olympics.
Thanks for that - I was worried BBC Wales had dropped it - you never know with their scheduling. ::)
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Just caught up with Kelly Clarkson episode on BBC iPlayer.
Thought the story of her Civil War Union soldier then Sheriff then Senator ancestor was "Awesome".
Kelly was a little bit annoying. And I cringed when she spoke to the grave of her G-g-grandfather
"Man" ;D
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Hi again,
Just to let you know that episode 3 featuring Cindy Crawford is on tonight (2/2/14) BBC1 at 11.10pm.
Found both episodes so far interesting, but would agree that Kelly Clarkson was slightly irritating with all the hugging & overdone exclamations. Found Christina Applegate's one interesting but very sad.
I look forward to this next one!
Kind regards
David
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Well ,
I enjoyed Cindy Crawford's episode. She was a lot calmer and didn't hug!
I was fascinated by her Somerset born ancestor and gob smacked by the unfurled family tree scroll (now commonplace in the UK version) which traced her back to Charlemagne. I wonder how many researchers were involved and how long that took ;D ;D ??
Looby :)
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It did make it seem very easy though. I'd have been more interested in finding out about Thomas Trowbridge's wife or even some of the later generations but I suppose that wouldn't have made good tele.
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I agree Lizzie, it was easy viewing but I would have wanted to know more about them in the US...I would hope Cindy then went and read the Trowbridge book she was shown. I would love to have seen her daughter's school project after that ;D
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I enjoyed Cindy Crawfords episode although it did make me laugh when she said 'I've only been doing it a day and already I'm back to the 1600s'!! ::)
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Charlemagne, by the sounds of it if we are of European heritage ,we are all related to him !!40 generations back of course ???
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/05/07/charlemagnes-dna-and-our-universal-royalty/
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/03/you-are-probably-descended-from-charlemagne-and-other-royalty.html
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/are-you-descedant-of-charlemagne.html
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I did wonder whether the Trowbridge book had been written by an historian and had real evidence to back it up, or whether it was yet another of the "family" books that Americans seem to like writing about their families. I've come across some on the internet which, apparently, have some of my ancestors in them, but when I check them out, they have most of the facts wrong, wrong date of birth, wrong place etc. even transporting families to USA, who I know from parish records etc. never left these shores.
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Charlemagne, by the sounds of it if we are of European heritage ,we are all related to him !!40 generations back of course ???
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/05/07/charlemagnes-dna-and-our-universal-royalty/
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/03/you-are-probably-descended-from-charlemagne-and-other-royalty.html
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/are-you-descedant-of-charlemagne.html
;D I knew I was Royal!
They did gloss over the chart back to Charlemagne. Doesn't seem so impressive now.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I quite enjoyed the programme but she was worrying me when she had her pen so close to the books and documents as she was reading. :o
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I've just been looking at next week's Radio Times - and I'm not a happy bunny! It seems we in the north are not going to get the Jim Parsons episode. Instead we have some football or rugby programme.
Like I said - not a happy bunny!!! Is there a digital BBC channel I could get it on, like with the regional news programmes?
Jill
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Are you sure it's just not on very late , Jill.
BBC Scotland showed Cindy Crawford' s episode later than the rest of the areas after football on Sunday past.
Looby :)
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You may be able to watch on BBC iplayer
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Don't know where in the north you are Jill, But BBC Scotland are showing Jim Parsons at 11.20pm on Monday! ;D
Phew! I'm looking forward to his too and would hate to miss it. Looks like I'll be on strong coffee to stay awake :P
Looby :)
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I'm in East Yorkshire. At 11.20 next Monday night we have the delights of The Super League Show (rugby, apparently).
The only reason I knew we were missing out is because it has a write up under 'Monday Choices' which actually says 'not North, North east and North West Regions'.
It sounds as if its going to be a really good one as well "He strikes genealogical gold. Parson's journey is every bit as exceptional as his most famous character."
We've had to put up with over effusive women going 'gee' and 'okay' and then we get what looks like a really good one - and we don't see it!
I'll scour the other days schedules to see if it crops up.If not, I'll have to try iplayer but, call me old fashioned, I really do prefer to watch my programmes on the tv in comfort rather than on a much smaller PC screen on an office chair!!!
Grrr!!!!!!!!
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Anybody got any clues when the Jim Parsons episode will be shown in the NW?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03vl9b1/broadcasts/upcoming
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Do you, or someone in your household have a Wii Games console, Jill?
I can watch i- Player on my big telly through the Wii channel. I only found this out from my sons (who the Wii belongs to).
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No, loobylooayr, nothing like that I'm afraid.
I've studied the schedules for the rest of next week but I can't see it. Its just possible that we might get it next week but I think perhaps the BBC have slipped up here and assumed he's not very well known so no one would want to watch anyway. Don't they know The Big Bang Theory is the best and cleverest comedy on tv? They should also have taken account of their own write up about it being a good one. I even looked on the BBC website to see if I could ask them what they were playing at but, of course, its totally baffling and it seems you can only submit a complaint after you've watched a programme! They wouldn't have taken any notice anyway...
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What a shame Jill :'(
I'm sure the powers that be will eventually show it. That has happened before with programmes North of the Border. Don't even get me started on Downton Abbey which STV didn't show first time round , one because of the cost and two because apparently Scots don't like costume dramas ??? ??? .
Well, no one ever asked me!! After a huge outcry, we did eventually get to see it just before they showed series 2.
Anyway back to Sheldon...why don't you leave a comment http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/cssfps/who-do-you-think-you-are-usa--series-4---4-jim-parsons
Someone else has already :)
Looby
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The complete Jim Parsons episode is on You tube - I watched it over the weekend.
;)
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Jill, have you checked your tv channels to see if you can receive another region. We can connect with several.
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Jill, have you checked your tv channels to see if you can receive another region. We can connect with several.
Are you on Sky or Freeview, larkspur? You couldn't give me a couple of channel numbers to try, could you? I've not found anything so far.
I'll probably end up watching it on iplayer. I came to the conclusion that it was pointless complaining to the BBC - they are collectively so arrogant that they never listen anyway.
Jill
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I am on free sat Jill
BBC 1 channels
Yorks 966
West 965
Wales 964
West Mids 963
South West 962
South 961
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The problem with links to Charlemagne is that depending on which history book you read you will find different links from English Royalty back to Charlemagne. What I found surprising was that they didn't pick up Cahrlemagne's ancestors for which there are links back to the Romans, but perhaps they found a number of different ones and didn't know which to use.
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Thanks, larkspur - I'll give those a try.
Jill
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Hello Jill
BBC1 Scotland,Sky 951
omega,living in soggy Sussex :)
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Problem solved! What would I do without Rootschatters? ;D
Those channels are all on Sky - I never knew! Infact, I've just been watching the regional Scottish news! I thought I'd stick to the southern channels to make sure its being shown and forwarded to next Monday night on the schedules - and the Jim Parsons WDYTYA is listed, so fingers crossed!
Thanks everyone. :-*
Jill
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Scotland have some different programmes,also
I have BBC Wales 1 & 2 schedules in my favourites :) Husband records everything for me
omega
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Any chance for us without Sky or freesat in W Yorkshire? I can't find it on iplayer.... I've got freeview.
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Josey free view has more channels than Free sat. If you wade through your channel list, the BBC 1 channels seem to be in the 900s.
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OK, thanks, I'll have a go at 'ploughing' ;D
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I've got Freeview and I don't have any 900 numbers to "plough" through.
BBC1 Scotland (i.e channel 1) is the only BBC 1 channel I can get.
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My freeview channels only go up to 803.
So I've just watched it on youtube, thanks bevbee for the 'steer' :)
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801 and 802 on my bedroom tv which is freeview. Sorry should have remembered that was freeview ::)
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No sign at all of it on BBC in the north west. Iplayer seems to be the only option.
At least I have the cables to plug the laptop into the telly and see it full size.
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Well did anyone get to see Jim Parsons aka Sheldon Cooper :)
I enjoyed this episode and thought the trail to Louisiana then to France and the documents found there fascinating. I won't say anymore for fear of spoiling it for those who didn't get to see it .
And I think Jim seemed a nice guy (with a bit of Sheldon in there :D).
Looby :)
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Jim Parsons WDYTYA
'Wow' your in for a real treat. Had the strong coffee to stay awake and I was not disappointed, I would even say this has been my favourite WDYTYA and I hope a more indepth programme might be made in the future :)
Very odd watching 'Sheldon' driving a car for you Big Bang fans out there!
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Drats missed it, I had it on record, just need to check it did!
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Thoroughly enjoyed last nights programme. As Looby says Jim certainly brings a lot of himself to the character of Sheldon lol. He was a very articulate man and I loved his quip at the beginning to his mum about the good genes!!!
I also agree that I think this was one of the best USA programmes I have seen!
Suziq
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Just watched it! I'm so pleased that I went to such pains to find out how to watch it here in the North where we're presumably supposed to prefer rugby!
What a fantastic episode! Certainly the best US one I've watched and up there with the best of the British ones as well. Again, I won't say too much more in case there are some people still to watch it but watch it you must! Such a pleasant, well mannered, enthusiastic and rather erudite young man. And, for once, it didn't all stop with the American Civil War.
A gem!
{Looks like they're doing the same again next week in the North so I shall repeat the exercise of recording it from a southern BBC1 channel. Zooey something or other......}
Jill
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Bazinga - it was good wasn't it Jill. :D
Zooey Deschanel is an actress - I know she was in the comedy Elf with Will Ferral.
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Hi all-
I managed to catch Jim's episode on iplayer. Very enjoyable and I agree with Davsuro "Wow". I found the Benjamin Franklin association great fun to hear about. Any American will tell you Benjamin (one of the founding Fathers of America) is idolised so a big 'WOW' from Jim was probably well placed.
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BBC Scotland must think people interested in Family History are insomniacs ::)
I've just checked TV listings to see when Zooey Deschanel's episode is being shown.
It's starting at 12.20 and finishing at 1am.
Honestly, I'm going to have to have some strong coffee. Or rely on BBC iPlayer.
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I've just found that in our region it shown on BBC1 HD.
Pity I don't have HD.
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Just watched Zooey on iplayer. Her family story was very interesting and I found her a lot more articulate than some of the previous subjects. (Not many WOW's or huggies)
I did love the fact whenever she went to visit an expert they had always 'arranged for her to....' see or visit the next place. That would be fantastic wouldn't it? Wonder who is next?
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Just watched on iplayer, too. The history was put across very well, especially about the Christiana Resistance & the amazing result of the death there [won't spoil it for anyone!!]. Yes, not many 'wows'; whether her interpretations were written for her we shall never know, but Zooey summed up situations very succinctly.
This series really does concentrate on history, centred around one ancestor of the subject. No problem with that but, as has been said before, it means that little genealogy is done during the programme. It is surprising to me how many historical centres, libraries etc there must be.
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I find the lack of genealogy a little frustrating. For example it was obvious in this latest episode that one of the other signaturies to one of the documents that they presented was also probably a relative but this wasn't even mentioned even though they had the mother's surname.
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Yes, there is little opportunity in a 40 min programme to follow more than one person.
SPOILER ALERT:
I would have found it interesting to have followed up the ex-slave Parker who escaped the Christiana Resistance to Canada & found that family & reunited them with Pownall descendants.
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I've not watched this one yet, but if it's like the others in the series, they seem hellbent on following the line that leads to a famous ancestor. I'm getting a little bored with that. In one of the ones we've just seen, I was thinking from things that had been said that following the female line would have been much more interesting.
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Hi all,
Almost forgot to do this!
The last in the series featuring actor Chris O'Donnell (NCIS: Los Angeles, Batman & Robin, Batman Forever & Scent of a Woman amongst others!) is now on tomorrow Tuesday 25th February 2014 on BBC1 at 11.35pm. They have changed it from tonight (Monday) to a day later as noted above.
Watched Zoey Deschanel's episode on BBC IPlayer the other night. found it very interesting & Zoey herself was very articulate in her responses & knew her history, which made a very nice change. All in all a very interesting episode indeed.
Kind regards
David
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Hi All,
Yes, managed to catch Chris' episode last night. Did fall asleep a number of times. Expected a trail back to Ireland but it never materialised. He did find quite a lot of archival material on two of his ancestors which was a great find. The catch word this week: GOTCHA.
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Oh no :o
I didn't watch it - because I didn't know it was on (loud sigh).
Why did it change days? I looked at Monday's nights TV schedule and just thought it was skipping a week. I should have known better.
Never mind I'll watch it on i-Player. Enjoyed Zooey's episode. She seemed an intelligent, thoughtful subject.
Looby :)