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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: LtWilliamsonNotts on Saturday 11 January 14 00:38 GMT (UK)
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Born Victor Norman Slater in 4Qtr of 1939 with mothers maiden name down as Hughes, I have a question mark in my family tree which I fear will always be an unanswered question.
The short of it is, I believe my Grandmother (Irene Beatrice Slater) who was 16 at the time of Victor Norman's birth was in fact his mother as opposed to his sister as it was passed off to outsiders and even those within the family.
According to basic records, Victor's parents were Ernest Slater and Ethel Slater (maiden name Hughes). Ethel would have been 45 at the time of Victor's birth but more importantly, family remembered being bed bound during the late 1930's and 1940's with illness. Whilst I know it is not impossible, what is notable is that Victor was born out in Southwell at a time when the entire family lived in Cannock with the exception of an auntie of my Irenes.
After discussion with my old man, he said it would not have been beyond the family to have sent my grandmother packing to her aunt in Southwell to have the child, Victor, who was later to become commonly known as Norman.
To add fuel, my Grandmother ended up settling in Nottingham a fews years later after having two more children, both of whom were registered with different surnames and we believe by different fathers. Unfortunately, the family were incredibly secretive back then. Of the two sons she had in 1946 and 1950, both grew up in later years to be referred to as Uncles of the three children she would later have with my grandfather.
I guess what I want to know is were many births registered in a way which could have seen my Grandmothers parents details input as parents as opposed to her own details. Would any known records in later years have gave a hint to a truth.
In addition, when Victor Norman died at a young age in 1965, my old man who was then aged seven recalls my Grandmother taking his death extremely badly. Almost a state of severe depression. She cancelled Christmas and failed to make an effort to celebrate it for much of the next twenty years or so.
Victor Norman, was born in Southwell, or at least registered there and passed away and his death registered in 1965, aged 25 in Nottingham.
I have posted this on both Nottingham and Staffordshire pages.
Thanks in advance should anyone be able to help or shed any light.
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It wasn't unusual for a young girl to be sent away to have her child and then the child being registered as the child of his/her grandparents.
But also it was not unusual for a woman to have a child in her forties. My Grandmother was 47 when my father was born (she had her first child at age 18)
So unless anyone in the family knew for certain you have to go with the names on the birth certificate.
This looks like his probate record - if that may give any clues?
Norman Victor Slater of 50 Calverton Rd Arnold Nottinghamshire died 23 June 1965 at the City Hospital Nottingham. Administration Nottingham 12 July to Ernest Slater retired miner
Effects £243
Suz
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Suzard that is really interesting. Thank you so much.
So stories I was told of him dying shortly before Christmas are not quite accurate. And that would mean that his father, according to the story the family told, was in charge of the administration of his princely £243.
Whilst I know many did have children in their forties, it was always known that the supposed mother was very ill from a young age and in no state to be having further children after the early-1930's.
Thanks again.