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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: lind1799 on Friday 10 January 14 13:33 GMT (UK)
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Hi, can anyone help me please. I am researching my family history and have come up against a wall. I am looking for information of the death of Maud Seymour Dittmer (nee: Lindop) in 1913. She died with her 2y.o son George apparently on the same day. The deaths were registered on the same GRO sheet on September 1913 at Prescott where they lived. Have tried registering with Liverpool echo but not on the 3 pages I chose. Unfortunately house bound due to illness so a trip to Liverpool records not viable. Her husband was Christopher Fredrick (Fred) Dittmer who died on the SS Verdi torpedoed in August 1917 and is on the roll of honour in Liverpool cathedral. Any suggestions?
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Not sure what sort of information you are looking for, but the starting point will be to buy a copy of her death cert.
That will tell you when and where she died, cause of death and name of informant.
Can be ordered from www.gro.gov.uk using the details from the GRO index
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she was 30 when she died...dittmer death 1913 sept qtr only shows Maud B Dittmer - no George
James Stanley Dittmer aged 0 in dec qtr 1901 Prescot ...is the only other I could find ??
www.freebmd.org.uk only has those 2 deaths in Prescot - where did you get the info about George ??
he is born George H Dittmer in sep qtr 1911 in Prescot mmn is Lindop...but I can`t see a death for him or a marriage - so where did he go ??.....
the marriage was in june qtr 1905 Maud Seymour Lindop to Frederick C Dittmer on freebmd
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk has this in 1905
DITTMER Frederick C LINDOP Maud S West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/221/97...
1881 census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQDH-KNS
so now I am totally confused -
MAUD SEYMOUR LINDOP married Frederick Christopher Dittmer in Liverpool 1905
MAUD B DITTMER is the death in Prescot in 1913 aged 30 ...I think these are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ?
I am going to check what year Maud Seymour Lindop was born ...it should be 1882/83 ...be back soon
Births Sep 1883
LINDOP Maud Seymour W. Derby 8b 319 the age is spot on ...I wonder if freebmd has mistranscribed Maud B and it should read Maud S ??????
still doesn`t answer why there is no death for George H Dittmer ...?
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Hi,
This is possibly George:
George H DITMER SeptQ 1913 Prescot 8b 829 (age 2)
and Maud:
Maud S DITTMER SeptQ 1913 Prescot 8b 832 (age 30)
Which suggests that the deaths were not registered at the same time.
Nanny Jan
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Thanks Nanny Jan - never thought to look with only one T ...only 2 records in between them both ?
as you say , they weren`t registered the same day ....
Deaths Sep 1913
Dittmer Maud B 30 Prescot 8b 832 copied of freebmd - where did you get yours that says
Maud S Dittmer ??........this looks like a mistranscription on freebmd to me ?
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I found details on FreeBMD and FindMyPast and looked at original image; the "S" is not very clear.
829 and 832 refer to the page numbers and not the individual entry.
Nanny Jan
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I found details on FreeBMD and FindMyPast and looked at original image; the "S" is not very clear.
829 and 832 refer to the page numbers and not the individual entry.
Nanny Jan
well that has just educated me - so are we talking a possible 60 deaths in between George and Maud - ie 20 on each page ??
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FreeBMD shows the following for this district, quarter and volume:
5 deaths on page 829
5 deaths on page 830
5 deaths on page 831
6 deaths on page 832
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Christopher Frederick Dittmer, the son of Johann Heinrich Dittmer and Katharina Margaretha M Heuer who married Maud Seymour Lindop wiggled their way into my research only yesterday.
Dittmer is a German name and has often been wrongly transcribed, i.e. Dettmer - Dettmar, etc.
There is a George William Dittmer born to this couple but he seemed to have lived to a ripe old age.
I am in the midst of cooking but will come back to this tomorrow morning after taking Buster for his constitutional.
Gill
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A few dozen Dittmer/Dettmar entries at www.mawer.clara.net/sugardd.html .
Both Christopher and Henry Dittmer in Liverpool 1880s/1890s.
Bryan.
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Christopher Dittmer, born Germany, was and engineers labourer, he and his wife Margaret had a very large family,
Mary their daughter is living in Ascot Street in 1881 ,where her father was described as a labourer in the sugar house, I am sure you have this information already ,
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Here he is:
Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Ditmer
George H
2
Prescot
8b
829
I found him first on Ancestry where his age at death is given as 2 and checked back with BMD.
His birth on BMD:
Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
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DITTMER
George H
Lindop
Prescot
8b
1426
What a difference a "t" makes!
Gill
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There is a Tree on Ancestry which could be yours as the death date for little George is not given.
There is also his father's death on Findagrave, stating he was in the Mercantile Marines as Assistant Steward, died on 22 August 1917 and is buried at the Tower Hill Memorial in London.
What a sad story
Gill