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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Admi on Wednesday 08 January 14 13:13 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm interested in any information on Rutherford Palmer (b. Nov 8 1899 - 1 Teviot Row, Hawick, Scotland... d. about Dec 12 1989 - Sarina, Queensland, Australia).
He was the son of my great grandfather Thomas Palmer (b. Aug 23 1841 - Polmont, Stirlingshire, Scotland... d. Oct 27 1903 - 2 Catherine Place, Edinburgh) by his second marriage to Mary Jane Rutherford.
Rutherford Palmer's mother died on Nov 24 1899 - 16 days after Rutherford's birth. His father (my great grandfather) died in 1903, so young Rutherford was an orphan before he was 4 years old.
He was brought up by his Aunt (Jemima Young, nee Rutherford) and her husband Robert Augustus Young at 1 Teviot Row in Hawick, Scotland.
Rutherford Palmer served in the Royal Navy between 1917 and 1919.
In 1922 he emigrated to Australia, sailing from the Port of London to Melbourne on the SS Ormonde.
He was a pastry cook and settled in Sarina, Queensland. He married Ethel Mary Wright (b. Dec 2 1893 - Townsville, Queensland... d. Jun 22 1979 - Sarina, Queensland) in 1927
I have electoral roll transcripts from Queensland for 1934, 1939, and 1949 showing that Rutherford continued to work as a pastry cook and lived at Plane Creek Mill in Sarina.
He died around Dec 12 1989 and I believe that he is buried in Sarina Cemetery with his wife Ethel.
I'd love any information which can be provided about his life in Australia - did he and Ethel have any children? Does anyone know or remember him or Ethel?
I have a lot of information about Rutherford's Scottish ancestry which I would be only too willing to share.
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QLD BDM: https://www.qld.gov.au/law/births-deaths-marriages-and-divorces/family-history-research/
Death: Ethel Mary Palmer 25/6/1979 No: C4799; Father - James Wright; Mother - Mary Jessie Camp.
Birth: Ethel Mary Wright birth comes up 2/12/1892 but Reg shows 1893 No: C7192. Ethel Mary Wright; Father – James; Mother - Mary Jessie Camp
Marriage: 4/6/1927 Reg No: C1470 Ethel Mary Wright and Rutherford Palmer
cheers :)
cupoflife
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Thank you so much for the prompt response, and especially for the link to the Queensland documents.
I have been looking for information on Rutherford Palmer and his family after the 1911 census for a long time... not helped by the fact I completely missed his emigration record!
I'm very grateful.
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Hi,
The 1925 Commonwealth Electoral Roll Has Rutherford residing at Plane Creek Mill, Sarina as a pastry cook.
The Plane Creek Mill was and still is today a sugar mill at Sarina.
Gerry
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1924 Commonwealth Electoral Roll has Rutherford Palmer residing at 14 Fitzgibben St Parkville in Melbourne as a pastry cook.
Gerry
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Hi Gerry,
... and thank you so much for your response and information. The information is very welcome. I'm starting to get a picture of Rutherford Palmer starting out in Australia and settling in Sarina... where he would spend the rest of his life.
I'm very impressed by and grateful for the prompt and informative responses so far.
David.
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David,
I see him on the shipping record into Melbourne as a baker, it's a long way from Melbourne to Sarina. I'm going to the State Library today I'll see if there is burial register for Sarina.
Gerry
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Hi,
David,
Rutherford Palmer died 12th December 1989 at Mackay age 90 an he is buried at the Sarina Cemetery.
Ethel Mary Palmer died 26th June 1979 age 86 and she is also buried at the Sarina Cemetery.
Had a look at the Mackay Daily Mercury while at the State Library and luck, both funeral notices were published. Please send me a PM with your email and I'll send them on to you.
Gerry
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Hello again Gerry.
Once again, I am very grateful for your prompt and very informative responses and help. This really is very good of you, and helps me a lot. I really hope that this work is not taking up a lot of your time or causing you expense.
I'll send a PM with my email as soon as possible.
David.
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As I live in Sarina I can take photos of the grave or of the area if you would like Cheers gmar
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Hi,
That would be absolutely fantastic... no rush and I'm very grateful. I'll send a PM with my email addresses...
Thanks,
David.
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1922 Commonwealth Electoral Roll.
Ethel Mary Wright was residing in Sarina with her parents.
Wright Ethel Mary, Sarina, home duties.
Wright James, Sarina, laborer.
Wright Mary Jessie, Sarina, home duties.
Gerry
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Hi Gmar,
I think Ethel's parents, James Wright (d: 8th Nov 1944) & Mary Jessie Wright (3 June 1944) are buried at Sarina.
Gerry
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Hi Gerry/Gmar,
Can I just say how grateful I am for all your help.
As I have said to Gerry, I feel relieved/happy that my great uncle Rutherford - whose start in life was so unpromising - grew up to make a home and family for himself and lived to such a ripe old age.
I only hope the cemetery at Sarina is not so huge that it will take a long time to find any graves!
Grateful thanks,
David
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I sent the photo on their double site to your email address so I hope you received it. Did you want any more info on Ralph as he was known. I am willing to see if there is any more news on them Cheers gmar
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Hi,
Rutherford Palmer was my grandfather. He resided at 5 Langdon St Sarina with my grandmother Ethel Mary Wright. They had one son, my father Thomas James Palmer who married Betty May Hartley 9 April 1966. Thomas and Betty Palmer reside in Mackay. Their children are Helen Jean Munro (nee Palmer) and James Rutherford Palmer.