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I am wondering if I can get help with my recent finds. I used info from census from 1861 & Up, BMD, FamResCtr. & the aid of friends thus far.
I found this death: March 1842 BLUNT Robert- Shrewsbury. Need to know if this is my ancestor? Perhaps I may get lucky & find someone with the 1841 & 1851 census to see where Robert Blunt, retired chemist was living.
...also many blank deaths along the way. Have most marriages...except the ones in blue...& no documents, yet. Missing many children, also...Sorry if there is too much information....but have gotten heck for putting too little(lol)
Robert BLUNT- G.G.GF. born c. 1777, St George,Southwark, , Buckingham, England D.(1842?)
Married : 17 JUN 1802 Chesham, Buckingham, England
Anne (PORTER_ - G.G.GM. born c. 1781 Chesham, Buckingham, England
Henry Blunt Sr. born 14 NOV 1806 W L F Chapel -Independeso, Southwark, Surrey D. 1853
Thomas BLUNT Sr.-G.GF. born 16 NOV 1803 St, Southwark, London, England D. 1874 Shr.Shr.
Married : 1802 st george, Southwark
Sarah ( Smith ) G.G.GM B. c.1801 Kent Road, Surrey, D. 1864 Shrewsbury
Blunt Mary c. 1835 Shrewsbury d. 1851
Blunt Elizabeth B.1837 Shrewsbury D.-----
Blunt Sarah Maria B . 1840 Shrewsbury D. 1901
Blunt Charles Gaire B. 1846 Shrewsbury D. 1864
Blunt- Thomas Porter – G.GF. B. c.1842 Shrewsbury D. 1929
Married : 1866 Cirencester
Emily Rachael (Robinson)- G.GM. b. 1842 Hampton Wick, Mx. d. 1910 Sh..Sh.
Thomas Gaire R. Blunt b.1867 d. 1950
Emily Augusta Blunt b.1868 d.___
Mildred Frances (Felton) b. 1869 d. 1906
Mary Ella Blunt (spin.) b. 1871 d.___
Gertrude Mabel E. (Rodick) b. 1872 d.___
Walter Arthur Blunt b. 1874 d. 1911
Charles Ernest J. Blunt b. 1876 d.___
Ethel Marion Blunt - GM b. 1878 d.1973
Hubert Porter Blunt b. 1882 d.___
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Hello my genealogy crew!!! :D :D :D
The above was an attempt at putting more information ...although I think it scared people off as I received no replies...It does, however, have most of the information on it with blanks of missing info...I have the 1861 and 1871 with Thomas Senior and also Thomas Porter 1871, 1881 and 1891. ( paid for those just before I found rootschat! Didn't know about this site and didn't even know you could view some basic info on the census back then!!! )
I tried to find Robert Blunt in Southwark, so was wondering if he might have moved to Shrewsbury ...as both his sons ended up there, working as chemists...Worth a try, anyway!
Thanks a million for looking things up for me...
J.J. Jeany
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Hi Jeany
I've been trawling through the census returns to get the Blunt family straight in my head but I haven't found Thomas and Elizabeth Blunt yet in the 1861 census.
If you have that info, could you post it. It will help me looking at the later census and make it easier for someone else to look at the 1851 (I haven't got access to that one).
Will follow things up tomorrow.
Best wishes
Monica
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Should I put any other censuses up, also...?
1861 census ( Thomas Sr. & Jr.)
Name: Thos Blunt 57 abt 1804
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Chad
Street address: Tower Place
Condition as to marriage: married
Employment status: employer
Occupation: chemist
Name: Sarah Blunt 60 abt 1801
Relation: Wife
Where born: Kent Road, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Chad
parish: St Chad
Town: Shrewsbury Shropshire
Street address: tower Place
Name: Chas. Gaire Blunt 14 1847
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Education: scholar
Name: Elizth Blunt 23 abt 1838
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Name: Sarah Maria Blunt 21 abt 1840
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Name: Thos. Porter Blunt 18 abt 1843
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Education: under graduate in oxford
Name: Hannah Daniel 24 1837
Servant
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: St Chad
Shrewsbury Shropshire
single cook
Name: Jane Roberts 32 abt 1829
Relation: Servant
Where born: Llangollen, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish: St Chad
single house servent
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Dear Monica....
I had thought that maybe with a bit of luck someone might find Robert & Ann either in Thomas Sr's home or in Henry's home...or even on their own in Shrewsbury. Please don't fret over this, I'll feel badly. I know it can be hard to wrap one's mind over someone else's genealogy...
Jeany
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I've got the 1871 also... for Thomas sr...so the only ones that I would need for him would be the 1851 or earlier if there is such a thing...? Jeany
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good gosh, I just realized that there were 3 servants, now with 2 gals at home what did they need all them for, I wonder?
1871 census
Name: Thomas Blunt
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Household:
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish or Township: St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: 111 john place ( This should be TOWER Place)
Condition as to marriage: widow
Education:
Employment status:
Occupation: chemist
Name: Elizabeth Blunt
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Condition as to marriage: unmarried
Name: Sarah M Blunt
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Name: Annie Allen
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Servant
Where born: St Chad, Shropshire, England
Name: William North
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Holy Cross, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: St Chad
Name: Ann Owen
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Where born: St Chad, Shropshire, England
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I've popped into this thread too!!!!
I see that in 1871 Thomas Blunt was living at 111 John Place. Can't say that I've heard of that, but there is a St John's Hill which could possibly be nearby.
When I take your photos Jeany, I have also got to take a couple of St John's Hill so will have a nose round for John Place.
Maybe Monica is familiar with the name?
Jan
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Hi, Jan I am just looking at the actual images of the census, and the 1861 said St. John's row or Tower Place...The numbers were from 30 to 35 and Thomas sr. was in 35.....But I just looked at the actual image of the 1871 and it distinctly says Tower Place...I suppose the T does look like a "J" but that was transcribed wrong!
I never looked to compare before as I always refer to my printed images. I asked
for the typed file just in case I couldn't read some things...
Well on that census. the addresses go from 111, to 115...Hmmm... I think I will put up the other 2, also...
jeany
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1871_Thomas Porter Blunt Family
Name: Thomas T Blunt
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Household:
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Shrewsbury
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: 4 victoria st
Occupation: chemist
Name: Emily R Blunt
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Household:
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England
Name: Mildred F Blunt
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Name: Thomas R Blunt
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Name: Emily A Blunt
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
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1881
Thomas P. BLUNT 31 ( wrong age! should be 38!) Shrewsbury, Shropshire, Chemist Employing 3 Men & 2 Boys Public Analyst Gas Examiner M.A.Of Oxford
Emily R. BLUNT 39 Hampton Wick, Middlesex,
Thomas G.R. BLUNT 14 Shrewsbury Shropshire
Emily A. BLUNT 12 "
Mildred F. BLUNT 11 "
Mary E. BLUNT 9 "
Gertrude M.E. BLUNT 8 "
Walter Arthur BLUNT 6 "
Charles E.J. BLUNT 5 "
Ethel M. BLUNT 3 "
Augusta ROBINSON Mother In Law 62 Hampton Wick, Middlesex
Mary NEWNES Servant 15 Leaton, Shrops Nurse/Domestic Servant
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Sorry it took so long, but didn't have this as a typed file...
1891_Thomas Porter Blunt Family
These are marked 59 to 67 with 59 called Old Tower & 60 being called 28 Tower Place, and 61 is 27 Tower Place 62 is 19 Tower Walls Chapel keeper, 63 is the chapel & 64 is the Chapel Cottage.
Name: Thomas P.Blunt
Age: 48
Relation: Head
Household:
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: St Chad
Town: Shrewsbury
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: 27 Tower Place
Employment status:
Occupation: chemist
Name: Emily R Blunt
Age: 49
Relation: Wife
Household:
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampton Wick
Name: Emily A Blunt
Age: 22
Relation: Daughter
Household:
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Name: Mildred F Blunt
Age: 21
Relation: Daughter
Household:
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Name: Walter A. Blunt
Age: 16
Relation: SonHousehold:
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation: chemist Assistant
Name: Charles (E) J. Blunt
Age: 15
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation: scholar
Name: Ethel M. Blunt
Age: 13
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation: scholar
Name: Herbert P. Blunt (actual name is Hubert )
Age: 9
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Employment status:
Occupation: scholar
Name: Clara Corbett
Age: 19
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female (Single)
Where born: (Birmington?)Worcester, England
Employment status:
Occupation: Domestic servant
Thomas Gaire Blunt
locationResidence: 1891 - Worcestershire, England
Gertrude E.M. Blunt
1891 – city Warwickshire, England
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Hi jeany and jan,
I've had a look at the other sheets in the 1861 census to look at the route the enumerator took to try to place to address. This is the route:
Quarry Terrace, Quarry Place, St John’s Row, St John’s Row or Murivance, St John’s Row, St John’s Row or Tower Place, Crescent Place, Crescent Lane, Crescent Gardens, Crescent Cottage, The Crescent, Belmont, Belmont House (a school), Belmont Bank, Town Walls (2 houses), Belmont, Milk Street.
Jan - does that help narrow it down for you? I must admit, I'm not entirely enlightened by it - obviously some of the places have changed names over time. It looks as if Murivance and part of Town Walls used to be called St John's Row???
Jeanie - there are often two numbers relating to each property on the census - the one in the left-hand column is the schedule number and just relates to the census, if there is a house number it will be in the address column - so in the 1891 census 60 is the schedule number and 28 the house number.
Good luck with the photos,
Monica
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Hi all
Possible deaths:
The one you found - ROBERT BLUNT d. Mar 1842, Shrewsbury, 18 - 164 and
ANNE BLUNT d. Jun 1847, Shrewsbury, 18 - 149
You really do need some kind person to look up the 1841 and 1851 - they should be in the one and not the other if these are their deaths.
Monica
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Thanks, Monica, I don't know how I missed Ann in my searches. That may well be the ones, and yes, I will need to see the early censuses...Patience is a virtue, and I have time.
(Jan has put a bee in my bonnet....and Now my husband is getting the bug from me that England would be wonderful to visit. I had better be careful...or we'll pull our savings for our old age and pop off to the Island!!! It is so tempting!) jeany
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Jeany
It's me again!!!!
I am just starting a new thread on the main Shropshire Board for your attention. Have a look.
Jan :D
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Here's the link:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,92551.0.html
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I found Thomas Porter Blunt and his wife Emily Rachel Blunt nee Robinson with her mother Augusta Robinson in the graveyard at Shrewsbury (general cemetery). I've put the photos I took on the Findagrave website. The grave is not in great condition and Thomas Porter Blunt is right at the bottom. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/272339056/thomas_porter-blunt (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/272339056/thomas_porter-blunt)
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I think that Robert Blunt was probably buried in Swan Hill chapel graveyard. He was a deacon there.
Robert was a "dissenter" so he wouldn't have wanted to be buried in St Chad's as he would have to have had a Church of England vicar taking the funeral service. I'm not sure where the records for Swan Hill burials are. The original chapel was demolished and a new church built in 1862. Interestingly his grandson Thomas Porter Blunt was selling an "iron church" that can hold 400 people in 1877 (which may have been where the Swan Hill congregation met between the demolition of the old chapel and the building of the new church). At the time the general cemetery in Longden road, Shrewsbury (where his son, grandson, etc are buried) wasn't built (it opened in 1856 and was open to dissenters and church of england).
Robert's home was "Tower Place" in 1841. He lived there until his death and it then passed down to his descendants. Thomas Blunt would have grown up there, then moved out when he married, then moved back in after his father's death. If you type in "tower place" into the British Newspaper Archive (which gives 3 free views per email address) the Blunt's come up in many articles.
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Thanks once again for all your input ILEXSALOPIA. Please note that this thread was started almost 20 yrs ago!
No more religious discussion, please! I am from small-town mid-Canada. Many different religions in town but all got along. I have to admit that I wasn't aware of the term dissenters, or the offshoot religions it created until I started looking further into the past. People angry at each other due to a difference of so-called "faith"? UGH!
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Hello again ILEXSALOPIA. Here I really must apologise to you for not properly acknowledging your interest in the Blunts. I just saw the extensive work yourecently added to the find-a-grave site, and it honours him, and his work, beautifully. Cannot thank you enough for all that time & effort!
Sadly my old website, many years in the making as a gift to my Mum, who was always disappointed at the lack of recognition for his efforts...was removed by the host. My replacement one never really picked up steam. Your information, having been added to a popular website will make sure there is something to find!
(❤️ Thank you, Thankyou, Thankyou! ❤️ In Perpetuum Gratiam ❤️ To all who've helped me!)
Adding: Link to the old website, although many urls no longer work
For family looking in - Adding: Link to the old website, although many urls no longer work -
Main Index Page http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t0d/
Photo Page http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t0c/
Thomas Tidwell's article on Downes & Blunt - Sunlight & Free Radicals
- available for download here: (not sure if printed copies remain available)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tiu/
With gratitude to the brilliant & kind Professor Thomas Tidwell, for all his research!