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Title: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: Oakheart on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:04 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone ( and Merry Christmas ! )

I am quite new to UK research and I am having a bit of a hard time.

I am looking for my great great grandparents, an Aldridge-Lavis couple.

Mabel Lavis was born in Bristol but she married John Aldridge who should be born around 1890 in ( Islington maybe ? ) the London area. With the information I have, I understand that they married in April 1912, Bethnal Green.

Mabel is the daughter of James Lavis and Louisa ( born James ). But if Louisa is still alive in 1912, she lives with a second husband named Vines. I don't have any information about John, except that he and Mabel were still alive in the 1970s ( they celebrated their diamond anniversary ) and that John was known as Jack.

The trick ( or help ) is that in the same dates than John and Mabel, a Beatrice Lavis ( Mabel's sister ) also married an Aldridge ( Edward apparently ). So it could be that the two brothers married the two sisters.

I'd like to know if anyone have any information about John ? I know I am vague in the information I have and told you, but it is all I have and I can't afford to travel to the UK to directly search the archives. Maybe some among you have free resources I could use ( I already use family search and free bmd ).

Thank you for reading me and Merry Christmas ! :)
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: MargP on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:15 GMT (UK)
Hi and a warm welcome to Roots

Do you have the marriage certificate, for Mabel and John, this should give his fathers name and occupation, this may then lead us to the census information for him

Margp
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:25 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Here's the marriage

7.4.1912 at St Andrew Bethnal Green

John Aldridge 26 warehouseman - father James occ watchmaker
Mabel Lavis 25 father James (deceased) occ sailor

Witnesses Fred & Charlotte Baker
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:27 GMT (UK)
Beatrice married in 1910 but in Bristol
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:29 GMT (UK)
And the other marriage:

December qtr 1910
Bristol district    vol 6a, page 423

Aldridge, Edward
+ and on the same page +
Lavis, Beatrice
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:40 GMT (UK)
1891 census: Class: RG12; Piece: 1966; Folio: 144; Page: 26
2 Groom Cottages, Clifton, Gloucestershire

Lavis, James  Head  M  35  Mariner  b Bristol
Lavis, Louisa  Wife  F  30  b Bristol
Lavis, James  Son  M  10  Scholar  b Bristol
Lavis, William  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Bristol
Lavis, Ada  Daughter  F  7  Scholar  b Bristol
Lavis, Mabel  Daughter  F  5 Scholar  b Bristol
Lavis, Francis  Son  M  2  b Bristol
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: MargP on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:47 GMT (UK)
Hi

This may be them in the 1891 census

James Aldridge b 1849 London occ Clocksmith
Elizabeth b 1857
George b 1882
Albert b 1884
EDWARD b 1885
JOHN b 1890

Marriage for James and Elizabeth

11 Oct 1874 Bethnal Green St James the Great

James Aldridge aged 20 occ Clockmaker father Geroge Clockmaker

Elizabeth Hockley, father Joseph Hockley occ Porter

Margp
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 25 December 13 23:53 GMT (UK)
1901 for Bristol - all children b Bristol and all shown as son or daughter to Frederick


Frederick Vines   32 b Gloucs - labourer
Louisa  38 wife  b Weston super Mare
James Lavis 20
Willie Lavis   19
Ada Lavis   16
Mabel Lavis   15
Frank Lavis   10
Beaty Lavis 12
Dolly Vines   3
Fred Vines   12 Months
 
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: MargP on Thursday 26 December 13 00:34 GMT (UK)
Beatrice married in 1910 but in Bristol
Hi, you would need this marriage certificate to confirm if 2 brothers married 2 sisters

Edward Aldridge to Beatrice Lavis
Oct Qtr 1910
Reg Dist
Bristol Gloucestershire
Vol 6a
Page 423

Margp
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: MargP on Thursday 26 December 13 10:03 GMT (UK)
Hi

Baptist Record

John Aldridge, Born 8 Sept 1890
Baptism, 5 Oct 1890 Clerkenwell Islington

Father James Aldridge occ Clockmaker

Mother Elizabeth Aldridge

Margp



Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: Oakheart on Thursday 26 December 13 11:40 GMT (UK)
Hello and thank you all for your answers.

MargP --> Like CaroleW mentioned, the marriage I have for John and Mabel is the :

7.4.1912, Bethnal Green.

Name: John Aldridge
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1886
Age:   26

Spouse Name:   Mabel Lavis
Spouse Age:   25

In the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

James Aldridge was also named as John's father. Same for Edward but in married in Bristol.

Thank you  KGarrad, the 1891 census here was taken not a long time before James Lavis' death. Mabel's mother, Louisa, was soon to remarry with Fred Vines like shown in the 1901, even though in this census all Louisa's children are written with the name of Vines, only Dolly and Fred are his, the other are his step-children.

MargP --> Thank you, this is what I wanted to find one day, John's mother's maiden name. With this information, it should be easier to find more information now.

I thank you all. You have been very helpful. I think we can close this topic now. I wish you all happy end of year celebrations :)
Title: Re: Aldridge and Lavis, London area
Post by: MargP on Thursday 26 December 13 12:53 GMT (UK)
I am glad you have had a good result, if you need any more help, just post


Happy New Year

Margp