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Title: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Sunday 22 December 13 19:41 GMT (UK)
Hi
I was wondering if someone would be able to look to see if there was a marriage between Lindsey Beckford Molland and Lillie King . If there was one i think it would be between 1911 and 1916 ( my grandfather was born in may of 1916 and on his birth certificate it states they were married).
If any more info is need please ask .

Many thanks

Lisa  :)
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 13 21:35 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Lillie was b 1887 St Helier

There is a birth on freebmd for a Lynsey Rockford Molland in 1886 Southampton but the 1891 shows him as Lindsay B - Father George L and mother Fanny A

There are no online resources for marriages in the CI for that period
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 13 21:38 GMT (UK)
If you don't have 1891/1901 details for Lillie and Lindsay - let me know and I will post them
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Sunday 22 December 13 22:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole

Thank you for the welcome and the look up .
I have info on Lillie for 1901& 1911 but not Lindsey (after 1891 I can't find him)
I have a bit of info on both of them
I can't find a marriage in the England for them and seeing as Lillie was from Jersey I thought it was worth a shot. It says on my grandfather's birth certificate (their son) that she was Lillie Molland was King ( of course they could be lying bout being married)

Thank you :-)

Lisa
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 13 22:16 GMT (UK)
What was Lindsays occupation on your grandfathers birth cert? 
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Sunday 22 December 13 22:25 GMT (UK)
It is a beer retailer . I found a directory on Ancestry which said the same .

Lisa
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 13 22:27 GMT (UK)
I thought he may have been a mariner so that blows my theory that he may have been at sea

Lindsay died in 1927 and Lilly in 1977 - both in Hampshire
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 13 22:39 GMT (UK)
Lindsay died 5.6.1927 at Park Prewett House Basingstoke.  Administration was granted on 23rd June to Lillie Molland - widow.  Effects £331

I don't know whether there was a requirement to prove a marriage before granting administration back in 1927.  If there was - then there was a marriage - somewhere!!
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Sunday 22 December 13 22:54 GMT (UK)
Its strange my aunt said that she thinks she remembers people saying he was ship wrecked  :-\ . I know very little about them both as my granddad (their son) and my nan divorced hen my mum was young after that my mum had very little to do with him and that side of the family . On Lindsey's death certificate it said he died at Park Prewitt House, Basingstoke  and died of paralysis of the insane ( I was shocked hen I googled it to find out what it was ) I don't know if that is just a story to cover that up.

Just read your other post , I will google that and see what comes up in regards to the administration.
I'm determined to find more out,  for some reason Lindsey really interreges me .
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 13 23:19 GMT (UK)
I notice there is a 7yr gap between your fathers birth and his sister in 1923.  Unless Lillie lost other children in between - it may be an indication that Lindsay wasn't always at home.

I think his brother (Frederick) George emigrated to America in 1906 as George Molland.  In 1901 his occupation was joiner and that tallies with the passenger list for 1906 and his birthyear 1884

Mother Fanny Amelia died 4.2.1939 - she was a widow.  Probate granted to daughter Jessie Amelia Barton wife of John Barton.  Effects £329 17s 3d

Father George Lowton Molland died 27.8.1935.  Probate to widow Fanny Amelia and daughter Jessie Amelia Barton.  Effects £405 15s 6d
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Sunday 22 December 13 23:46 GMT (UK)
I did see a passenger list that had a L Molland going to Southampton from America . I don't know if it is defiantly him .
I thought that it was quite a gap too. Does it mean anything normally as to who registers the birth of the child , is it normally the mother or father or doesn't it matter. I don't know if I'm just clutching at straws.       
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 13 00:35 GMT (UK)
All the birth certs I've seen have shown the mother registering the birth.  I'm not entirely sure whether the father had to be present in the case of a married couple but I know that in the case of an illegitimate child, the father had to sign the register if his name was to appear on the birth cert.

It may be that as long as the mother was able to show a marriage cert - the father was taken as stated
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 13 00:45 GMT (UK)
Quote
I did see a passenger list that had a L Molland going to Southampton from America .

That L Molland was b 1889 and was a steward
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Monday 23 December 13 01:00 GMT (UK)
Thanks for getting back to me on that , just me clutching at straws . Its such a shame no one in the family knows any more .

As to the passenger list , one thing I just thought of is how did he get to America? More confusion !

Before I forget , just wanted to say thank you for your help. I wish I had signed up for rootschat when I started researching. 
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: la grande-méthe on Monday 23 December 13 10:12 GMT (UK)
I can have a root through the Jersey marriage indexes for the marriage but it won't be until January as the Archive is closed until then.
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Monday 23 December 13 10:40 GMT (UK)
Hi. it would be amazing if you could. I thought they might be closed over the Christmas period . Thank you

Lisa
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Sunday 19 January 14 12:35 GMT (UK)
Hi

I was just wondering if anyone has had any luck .

Thanks

Lisa
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: la grande-méthe on Tuesday 21 January 14 15:58 GMT (UK)
Good thing you nudged this post - I'd completely forgotten, anyway, here's the info

12/7/1914 at St Helier Town Church

Lindsey Beckford Mollard, aged 28, bachelor, occupation Mariner, living in St Helier, born in Southampton. Father George Frederick Mollard - Block Maker.

Lillie King, aged 25, spinster, occupation Shop Assistant, living and born in St Helier. Father Charles Phelps King - Master Mariner.

The witnesses were Charles Phelps King and Gladys Edna King
Title: Re: Jersey - Marriage look up of Molland and King
Post by: lpeng on Thursday 23 January 14 21:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you sooo much for looking the marriage up, la grande-méthe. Im so grateful for you taking your time to look for me .
Another piece of the puzzle filled in :)

Thank you again

Lisa