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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: Beerman on Sunday 22 December 13 13:32 GMT (UK)
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My ggg grandparent's grave is at Burneston, by the vestry of the church of St Lambert. George Mason and Jane Turner, both born around 1780, were married in that church in 1802, lived then died in Theakston in 1855 and '57 respectively. The 1855 census showed Jane to have been from Well, just a few miles distant, but George was said to have born in what I read as Quorum in Yorkshire.
Could anyone care to offer a suggestion where that might be or where I might search further?
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The first letter resembles the capital T in Theakston and Tollerton on the previous page
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Here's a better snip of the image
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Hi
What you are reading is how the Locals would have pronounced it.
The place name is Quernhow, just off the A1 (M). There are two places Ainderby Quernhow and
Middleton Quernhow.
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Hi
I was just about to post this - agree with Genechaser :)
Could it be one of the Quernhows - Middleton Q and Ainderby Q. Either side of the A1, north of Melmerby/Baldersby
Gadget
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A bit more ~
Ainderby Q is in the parish of Pickhill:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Pickhill/index.html
and Middleton Q is in Wath:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Wath/index.html
Gadget
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Thanks to all for those swift replies.
Yes Shaun, I puzzled over that letter for a while, but it is similar to that taught at my junior school for "Q" in so called double writing.
Quorum is or was how to pronounce Quernhow, I never thought that could be so. I thought it might be Coverham (Cov'rum), but those of that name from there were all found later in other places. I'd researched both Quernhows from afar, being about the only place in Yorkshire I found beginning with "Q", but couldn't think anywhere ending in "how" could be pronounced "rum".
Looks like I'll need to find the records for baptisms at St Mary's, Wath and All Saints', Pickhill and next time I drive down the A1, stop and find ask a local what the place is called.
Many thanks,
Eric.
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:D
Sitha
Eric glad you found the place. You did make me laugh though saying that you never
thought the ending of the word could sound like it does.
Coming from Yorkshire you get used to the fact that thousands of words don't
sound as they are spelt. You will have to grab a Yorkie next time and they will
put you straight ;D
regards Sandymc
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My grandfather pronounced Stokesley as Stowsler! Staithes is known as Steers. Chopgate is Chopyat.
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Thanks for that advice and those revelationary pronunciations. Sadly I have to confess to being a Durham lad and a lover of dialect. :-[
Some time since I wrote "It is possible that Quorum is a variant of Quernhow..." but concluded
".......that Quorum was somewhere higher in a Yorkshire dale and the census entry was a city educated scripting of dialect." How much I've to learn about dialect.
I've had another go on IGI to see if more could be found, but despite information that suggests they have parish records of the period for both Quernhows, I've drawn a blank. Is it somewhere in Northallerton where the originals are held?
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Guide No. 2 published by the North Yorkshire Record Office in Northallerton listing their holdings of parish records has the following entries:
"Ainderby Quernhow - see Pickhill."
Under Pickhill with Roxby there are transcripts for christenings 1571-1837 together with microfilm 1571-1852, along with marriages & burials etc.
Pickhill cum Roxby is listed on Ancestry but as I don't have a subscription, I can't tell you any more about what that might be. Seems to be the registers as published by the Yorkshire Parish Register Society in 1904. This link hopefully will take you to the online version of the publication and you can search for George's christening.
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL6948666M/The_registers_of_Pickhill-cum-Roxby_Co._York.
"Middleton Quernhow - see Wath"
For Wath NYRO has transcripts for christenings/marriages/burials listed as 1696 to 1837, also some on microfilm.
I am not familiar with this area of North Yorkshire so do not know whether there were other churches in the vicinity, where the records are not lodged with NYRO.
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Thanks for this, that's a rather interesting book. Although it does list some Masons, none were around the period of interest. Nevertheless, I'll enjoy going through it in more depth.
It's looking as if I'll need to make contact with Northallerton, so I'll be looking that up next.
Cheers,
Eric.
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Hi Eric
You haven't mentioned whether you have information on Jane Turner.
I found her on the free information on the IGI for Yorkshire
Jane Turner christened 5th August 1780 at Well father Robert
other children
Robert c 11th August 1771
Elizabeth c 29th December 1773
Ann c 8th March 1776
John born 26th Feb 1778 chris 12th April 1778
William c 8th June 1783
There is a George Mason born Feb 1780 at Coverham which is 10 miles from Well.
If you want to know where places nearby are just search for the name of the village
or town and put genuki after it and it will bring up to 5 or 10 miles for you of
nearby villages.
regards Sandymc
p.s. if you want Jane and Georges children I found 7 of them, let me know if
you need them
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Hi SandyMc.
I found Jane's father from IGI but didn't have her sibblings, so thanks again and I'll add those into my tree.
For a while I thought he was the George Mason from Coverham, for Cov'r'm spoken might become Quorum in script. However, he was found elsewhere in census and other family trees which soon set me on the trail again.
I've got their children and am descended from their third child, Thomas. As a youngsters we were told the family originated from "Bedale", but there's obviously so much more that I don't know.
Thanks,
Eric.