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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: cupcake on Tuesday 17 December 13 12:39 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to find any information on Mary MacDonald (Maimie) MOFFAT and James S. S. TAIT, Paisley.
All I know is they were married in the Nithsdale Hotel, Dumfries. She lived at 24 Brooke Street, Dumfries. Her father was a plumber.
Her Grandfather, R J MOFFAT (master plumber) was deceased at the time and, he died 4 March 1926. So, I know they were married late 1926 or later.
Would like to know if they stayed in Dumfries or, whether they moved to Paisley.
Any information will be very much appreciated.
cupcake
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Afternoon, Cupcake
They married at Dumfries in 1937, according to ScotlandsPeople. The marriage record image is available but I haven't looked at it. This should say where they were both living at the time of their marriage. I guess you could research historic electoral rolls in the local archives to find out where they were living before and afterwards.
Regards
iandj
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Good evening landj,
Many thanks for the information. I will check their marriage details on Scotland's People.
Not too sure where the to look for the historic electoral rolls in the local archives. Had thought about looking at the electoral rolls at the reference dept. at the library but If I remember, I would need an address to locate them.
cupcake
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Unfortunately, you very much need an address to search the electoral rolls. PO telephone books for the period may be the best way forward, cupcake, with your access to local libraries and resources. You can search these by surname/area etc.
Have you tried to search for a death for a Mary M(a)cDonald/Tait on SP? Might give you further clues...
Monica
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Thank you for confirming I would need an address to search the electoral rolls.
I will have a look at the PO telephone books for 1937/1939.
No, I haven't searched for a death for Mary on Scotland's people but will do.
Many thanks for your help
cupcake
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No joy finding Mary and James in the directories. There is a possibility they may have moved North as James was from Paisley.
If I can find their first born's entry, it would give me an address and a place for me to start searching.
Cupcake
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cupcake, just playing around on SP on the general search screen. Can't really see a death for a Mary Moffat/Tait on SP (any age/year) :-\ Possibility they left Scotland perhaps?
Monica
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Monica,
I have ben searching for births on Scotland's People but unfortunately, most of them have no Image which doesn't help.
From their marriage entry, Mary was 33yrs and James was 29yrs. There is a slim chance they didn't have any children.
Also did a search for their deaths again, there are many without images. You may be right and they left Scotland :-\
Can't think where else to look unless searching the papers at the library :'(
cupcake
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There is a marriage showing in Glasgow in 1944 for a Mary McDonald Moffat just in the off chance that James Tait died (in those war years?) and Mary Moffat remarried. Just throwing options in as possibilities really. As you know, you are outside of the period where you can view these entries online on SP.
Have you looked at that 1937 marriage mentioned by iandj? Do you know Mary's mother's maiden name? You could also try searching for a death for her as Mary Moffat with mother's maiden name. If she died after 1974, SP have added mother's maiden name for deaths up to that point online on the search index/results page.
Monica
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Monica,
Please throw as many options as you can as everything is very much appreciated.
Thank you for the marriage in Glasgow of Mary. Hadn't thought of her husband being deceased and her re-marrying.
I shall have a look at the this on Scotland's People and with some needed luck, might be able to view it. Did wonder if I was outside of the period where you can view these entries online on SP. Thanks for confirming this.
Yes, it was the marriage entry mentioned by iandj. From this I got Mary & James's ages and Mary was living at 24 Brooke Street, Dumfries - James 43 Kilnside Road, Paisley. James's father was a Iron Moulder. James Tait was a butcher (journeyman)
Mary's mother's maiden name was MacDonald
Will look for Mary's death on SP.
cupcake
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Looked up the marriage you mentioned for Mary in 1944, although I was unable to view it, it gave his name as Francis NEAGLE, Gorbals, Glasgow.
Mary's father was still alive in 1944 and may have put her second marriage in the local paper, certainly worth a search. So, I'll visit the library again.
Also looked for a James TAIT death 1940/43 on SP. I looked at 4 possibles but, none of them him and takes too many credits to guess and get wrong.
cupcake
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I am not too sure about the marriage in 1944. As Mary was a local girl I thought there might have been a notice in the paper, had she re-married, there isn't.
Went to the library this afternoon and checked for any births in our local paper, between 1938/1950 and found one for Mary and James TAIT. They had a son, born 20 June 1939 in a Nursing Home, Glasgow. It also gives their full home address. Looks like an only child.
At least I know they moved to Glasgow.
Where does one go from here :-\
cupcake
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iandj,
Forgot to mention I got the death entry for Mary MacDonald (Maimie) MOFFAT and James S. S. TAIT, Paisley. The good thing about Scottish certs they give you more information.
Many thanks
cupcake
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Hard period here cupcake, as you know, to be more definitive :-\ Xmas wish, to sit in front of a SP terminal viewing all modern certs ;)
Happy people we would all be!
Monica
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Certainly is a hard period Monica.
I like a challenge, but this is too much for my tiny grey cells. If only there had been post-it stickers around back then, they could have left us some clues ;D
I like your :-\ Christmas wish - if only wishes came true though ;)
cupcake
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The only way I will be able to access the birth entry is to go to Edinburgh and go through the records.
Will do this next year when the weather improves.
cupcake
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Hello Cupcake,
I'm new to this site and just came across your posts. Robert J. Moffat is also my Great Grandfather. As a matter of fact, the photo of him in your post was posted by me on another site.
By the sounds of it, you must live in Scotland, unfortunately I live in Canada so access to record offices is not easy for me, however I do have a lot of old family photos and original birth records.
According to several sources, Robert J. died Feb 4 1926.
He and his first wife, Margaret Mein had 7 children (2 girls - 5 boys). After Margaret passed, Robert J married Annie McLaren on 18 Feb 1889 and together they had one child, a son, Robert Johnstone. Robert Jr. died 31 Jan 1899. Cause of death; Heart Disease -3 years, Bronchitis -8 days, Congestion of the lungs -6 days. Source: Death Record (Scotland’s People).
In 1910, Robert J's son, George, and his family at the time immigrated to Canada and finally settled in Vancouver, British Columbia. George and his wife, Jane MacKay had 5 children (4 girls - 1 boy).
I have great deal more information on the Moffat side of the family, but nothing on the Tait side, so your post is of great interest to me. Anything you would share would be greatly appreciated.
I have been very fortunate to connect virtually with 3 second cousins (2 in Scotland and one in Australia) all of which have provided me with a great deal of helpful information.
As I mentioned, I'm new to this site, so I hope you get this message.