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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Gilli48 on Sunday 15 December 13 17:24 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I am looking for help with my Juett, Jewett, Jewit/t, family.
My 3xGreat Grandfather John Gooud was married to Eliza Juett in January 1831 in St George Hanover Square, Westminster.
Now, as I indicated above there are quite a few variations on her surname. She, or the Vicar!, seemed to prefer Juett, however, the Eliza Jewett that I have found seems to be the nearest to her dates giving a Baptism date of 11 October 1807 in Feltham, Middlesex. Going by the censuses of 1841 and 1851 her estimated date of birth is 1806 so this could fit. There is a Joseph Juett b.1771 who appears in the 1841 census and then later the same year marries his housekeeper (!) Elizabeth Johns. However, I'm not sure whether this fits. He was a 70 year old Widower and she a 50 year old spinster. Eliza could be his child by his first wife but I can't find any records under any permutation of the name.
I would grateful for any help here as I am trying to further my Maternal line and at present is has hit a brick wall with her.
Many thanks
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Hi
This could be the burial of his first wife,
ELIZA JEWITT of Feltham buried 9 February 1840 aged 60 years.
claire
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For anyone else looking, here are the baptisms I can find
Eliza Jewett Bap. 11 Oct 1807 (born: 6 Apr. 1807) St Dunstan with St Catherine, Feltham, parents: Joseph and Elizabeth (image actually looks more like JEWITT)
Elizabeth bap. 13 May 1810 (born: 24 April 1810) St Dunstans with ST Catherine Feltham, parents : Joseph and Eliza (surname in image ~ JEWITT)
Susan bap. 14 Jun 1812 ( born: 10 Apr. 1811) Same Church. Parents: Joseph and Elizabeth (surname entered as JEWITT)
Eleanor JEWIT bap. 26 April 1818. Parents Joseph and Eliza of Feltham, he a labourer.
claire
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Thanks for that, however, you have shown the problem I have. Some baptisms show parents as Joseph & Eliza and some are Joseph & Elizabeth. I realize that Eliza could be a family name for Elizabeth but I'm not sure.
Joseph (or one Joseph) married Elizabeth much later. Could this be a case of having the children first and getting married later? I would've thought that the Vicar would have not been too happy to go along with this.
Thanks anyway. If you come up with anything else I would be grateful.
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Hi
Other possible children
Mary Jewett 24.2.1805 Feltham
And an online tree has a John Jewit bapt 5.12. 1802 Hanworth and buried Feltham 1804.
Perhaps Eliza came form Hanworth and has gone back to her mother's to have her first child.
Joseph's marriage says his father was George and there are several entries for a George Jewitt of Feltham on the London lives website in the 1780's.He's a witness in a trial at the Old Bailey.
George and Sarah Jewett have Charles 16.01.1774,Zachariah 1.2.1778 and Frances 3.9.1780 baptised at Feltham.Looking at the individual records there seems to be a gap between 1753 and 1771 which would leave Joseph's baptism missing.
Another place to try would be to go through Hanworth as well page by page perhaps on A*
Will carry on looking
Ciderdrinker
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Hi Ciderdrinker,
Thanks for your post. Sorry I didn't catch it earlier. I am slowly following up all the helpful hints received.
Regards, Ann-Marie ::)
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Any help appreciated regarding Feltham births for either Eliza Juett or Joseph Juett her father.
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Hi
If reply #2 isn't helpful, can you give us an idea of the dates?
Dawn
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Hi, all answers received are helpful. However, there are a few sticking points that I worry about!
1. The various Baptisms for children of Joseph have sometimes Elizabeth and sometimes Eliza as mother - I wonder whether there is any way of knowing that these are the same couple?
2. No marriage for an earlier wife. Only a later marriage to Elizabeth Johns, no father for her!
3. I followed earlier leads for George only to discover that the George that I had for Joseph's father was born in 1789 in Hanwell and Joseph's dob is 1770 - it could be a brother but without a Baptism for Joseph and George there is no way of knowing whether they share the same parents.
Help!
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By the way, Happy New Year :) Just a note further to my previous message. I also chased up another George in the hope of locating Joseph's father and he was born 1769 which I also reckon is too close in age. This George married Jane Thrift, b 1777, in 1804 in Hanworth and someone has added on the younger George born 1789 as their son. I appreciate that it is very confusing and I should've checked DOBs first but, hey we're all human!
Thanks again to all who have tried to help.
Hopefully, Ann-Marie
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Hi,
The George Jewett 1789 is (I believe) my ggg-grandfather.
I'm not sure who is father is but circumstantial evidence suggests it is William (b1765)
I can't find a baptism record.
While trying to work out who George's family is I have been trying to patch together all of the Jewetts at the turn of the 19th century in the Feltham/Hanworth area.
Soooo, all of the names mentioned here are familiar and, yes, it is confusing as there seems to be just a few pieces of information available (on the net).
Why do Joseph and Elizabeth/Eliza have two daughters with the "same" names? Elizabeth and Eliza? Unless Eliza died as a baby...
Anyway, back to your original quest. Why is an Eliza from Feltham getting married in Hanover Sq, Westminster. It sounds a bit grand for someone with her background. Where do the censuses say she originated?
BTW, A* has some pages missing for Hanworth :(
Colin
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Dear Colin,
Well here we are again. I am annmarie1254 from Ancestry and we tossed this issue about some time ago. Please forgive me for not replying sooner but I have been ill.
Like you I have been searching for Juetts, Jewetts and Jewit/ts recently. When I checked the Baptism records I have found that the Vicar has spelt their names Jewit or Jewitt even tho sometimes Ancestry have mistranscribed it as Jewett. Starting with my 2xgreat grandmother Jemima Gooud 1832 Baptised in Feltham but resident in St Marylebone, who married James Hoare, I then go back to her parents John Gooud 1807, a gardener, and Eliza Juett 1808-1853. Continuing up the Maternal line we have Eliza's parents Joseph Jewitt and Elizabeth,the Baptism clearly states. Eliza was born 6th April and Baptised 11th October 1807 at St Dunstan with St Catherine Feltham , Middlesex.
So, if we accept that Joseph Jewitt/Juett 1771 is the father of Eliza and the husband of Eliza/beth and that, as stated on his second marriage, his father is George then that takes us back a further generation.
As for why Eliza has moved from Feltham to Hanover Square, I think that John Gooud was working as a Gardener in the Market Gardens. It is not altogether remarkable that she got a job in service in London. While John seems to have moved about presumably looking for work, they were resident in Marylebone for Jemima's (eldest daughter) birth.
Hope that this doesn't raise too many problems. By the way what do BTW,A* mean?
All the best Ann-Marie
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It's short for "By The Way, Ancestry...."
I don't know why people do but many people shorten the Ancestry name
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Hi Ann-Marie,
Aaah, yes, I remember now....it was only a few months ago!
I guess it was just my assumption that the bride would get married in her home town.
I looked at CiderDrinkers comment and I think that he might be on to something.
It appears that Feltham didn't keep records between 1753 and mid-1771 so, as Joseph could have been born at the start of 1771 then we have his younger siblings.
Baptism records exist and they name both parents. The mother being Sarah.
Now, there was a marriage between the following:
Name: George Juatt
Spouse Name: Sarah Wade
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 18 Jan 1761
Parish: Bedfont St Mary the Virgin
I think that George would be about 22 at the age of marrying as there is a baptism for a George in Feltham.
George Jewet
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1739
Parish: St Dunstan with St Catherine, Feltham
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hounslow
Parent(s): William Jewet,
Elizabeth Jewet
And, that is as far as I can get....
Regards,
Colin
p.s. my previous post was my first post on here and saw that someone else used A* so thought it might be a censored word..
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Hi Colin,
Thanks for that, I too had found George and his wife Sarah Wade. Going back I have parents of George (my 5th Great Grandfather) as William Juett 1712 - 1779 Feltham and Elizabeth. They got married about 1730 in Feltham. Their children were:-
John 1732 - 1775, James 1734-1799, Thomas 1734, James 1737, George 1739, Martha 1748.
That's about it for now,
Regards, Ann-Marie