RootsChat.Com
		England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Norfolk => England => Norfolk Lookup Requests => Topic started by: moors on Saturday 14 December 13 15:21 GMT (UK) 
		
			
			- 
				I have Alice Rebecca Cross (B) 6/10/1881 (internet site says (B) 7/10/1879 (C) 15/10/1882) Shipdham Norfolk, also have (B) Dec. Q. 1881 Mitford 4b 255. 
 She (M) Samuel John Bates 1903 Mile End Mdx. 1c 682.
 Her Father Robert Cross her Mother Mary Ann Self they were (M) 1865 Dec. Q. Mitford 4b 783.
 
 Would like to see them on the 1871 census as there are many people of these names in Norfolk. Also on the 1881 census please. Thank you.
- 
				1871? Living at  Shipdham.  Except Mary Ann all were born Shipdham, Norfolk
 
 Robert Cross 28 Bricklayer
 Mary Ann Cross    25 b Bradenham, Norfolk
 Elizabeth Cross 4
 William Cross 2
 Edith Cross 9 Months
 
 Kay
- 
				1881 Living at Old Post Office St  Shipdham - Again all born Shipdham except Mary Ann
 
 Robert Cross    38  Bricklayer
 Mary Ann Cross    36
 William Cross 12 Brick layers Labourer
 Edith Cross 10
 Julia Cross 8
 Rosa Cross 6
 Herbert Cross 4
 James Cross 2
- 
				Thank you for 1881 census is it possible for you to find them on 1891 census please.
			
- 
				I don't think Alice Rebecca was born until post the 1881 census  and this family with Alice in 1891 living at 6 Old Post Office Lane Shipdham.  Robert is still a bricklayer and Mary Ann is listed as born in East Bradenham, Norfolk
 
 Robert Cross 48 Bricklayer
 Mary A Cross 45
 Herbert Cross 13 Errand Boy
 James Cross 11
 Alice Cross 9
 Ethel Cross 7
 Robert Cross 5
- 
				Thank you for the 1891 census.
			
- 
				                   Hi just as an add on to your search, Mary Ann Self in East Bradenham
 born.....27/09/1845
 bapt....02/11/1845.....Pa John..Ma Elizabeth, F/Search Norfolk PR's
- 
				Thank you for the info. Ann
			
- 
				Just in case you don't have the marriage details for Robert & Mary Ann:
 
 County   Norfolk
 Place   Shipdham
 Church   All Saints
 RegisterNumber   248
 MarriageDate   08 Dec 1865
 GroomForename   Robert
 GroomSurname   CROSS
 GroomAge
 GroomParish
 GroomCondition   Bachelor
 GroomOccupation   Bricklayer
 GroomAbode
 BrideForename   Mary Ann
 BrideSurname   SELF
 BrideAge
 BrideParish
 BrideCondition   Spinster
 BrideOccupation
 BrideAbode
 GroomFatherForename   John
 GroomFatherSurname   CROSS
 GroomFatherOccupation   Bricklayer
 BrideFatherForename   John
 BrideFatherSurname   SELF
 BrideFatherOccupation   Labourer
 WitnessOneForename   James
 WitnessOneSurname   BALES
 WitnessTwoForename   James
 WitnessTwoSurname   MENDHAM
 Notes   Groom Of Full Age - Bride A Minor
 FileNumber   528
 
 
 
 
 and here's the link for the actual marriage cert:
 
 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11547-101525-71?cc=1416598&wc=MMVP-4T1:n1130374463
- 
				and here's the link for Alice Rebecca's bapt:
 
 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11547-101190-78?cc=1416598&wc=MMVP-4L7:n1304942961
 
- 
				Thank you for the info. Ann
			
- 
				I would like to have the census for where Robert Cross and his wife Mary Ann (Self) were on the 1841/1851/1861 and 1901 census please. 
			
- 
				In 1901 the couple were living in Old Post Office St Cottages Shipdham - All born Shipdham
 
 Robert Cross    57 Bricklayer
 Mary H Cross    55
 Ernest Cross    15 Bakers Apprentice
 Ethel Cross    17 Domestic Servant
 
 In 1861 at Post Office St Shipdham with his father
 
 John Cross    69 Bricklayer b Shipdham
 Robert Cross    18 Bricklayer
 
 In 1851 at Post Office Street again
 
 John Cross    57 Journeyman Bricklayer
 Rebbeca Cross    48 b Yarmouth Caistor, Norfolk,
 Robert Cross    8
 
 In 1841 pre Robert at Post Office St - All born in County
 
 John Cross    45 Bricklayer Journeyman
 Rebecca Cross    37
 Susanna Cross    16
 Mary Cross    14
 William Cross    11
 Elizabeth Cross    9
- 
				This looks like Mary Ann Self in 1851 Living at High Green, East Bradenham, Everyone except Elizabeth and brother born in East Bradenham
 
 John Self    41 Road Man
 Elizabeth Self 39 b Gressenhall, Norfolk
 Rose Ann Self 12
 Harriott Self 9
 Joseph Self 7
 Mary A Self 5
 Ann Self    2
 Robert Robinson 33 Brother in Law - Higgler b Gressenhall, Norfolk
 
 In 1861 Mary was a general servant at East Bradenham with the following blacksmith's family
 
 John Tolman    33
 Matilda Tolman    32
 Alice Tolman    1
 Mary Ann Selfe    15
 
 
 
- 
				First I would like to wish you all the very best for the New Year.
 
 Can the (M) of John Cross to Rebecca Purse 26/1/1823 Shipham be variefied, as I cannot find it on the familysearch site. Is it possible to go further back with this family of Cross, in other words who were John Cross parents?
- 
				Hi moors
 
 Here's the marriage
 
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xev/
 
 unfortunately the parents names are not given
 
 regards
 yokel
- 
				Thank you for posting the info. 
			
- 
				This could be his baptism. Third of the way down on the left hand page
 
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xew/