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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: MissMacCallum on Sunday 08 December 13 11:59 GMT (UK)
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Hi.
My great-grandparents both died at Glasgow Western Infirmary between 1952-1960. They lived on Argyle Street, Glasgow before this.
Is there any way of finding out what cemetery they might be buried at? I've read somewhere that one was usually buried at the cemetery closest to their home. Does anybody know which cemetery was the "local" one in the Argyle Street area?
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As they died in the 1950's it is more likely that they would be buried in one of the major cemeteries.
Depending upon where they lived in Argyle Street and also any area where the family associated their links :-
you have Western Necropolis, The Necropolis, Sighthill, St Kentigern, Dalbeth, Eastern Necropolis and as an outside chance the Southern Necropolis.
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You could maybe look for a death in the British Newspapers and that might get you some information
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Glasgow City Council Cemeteries Department hold the lair records for most of the cemeteries. Unfortunately however they have a reputation of not being overly genealogy friendly and have been allegedly quoted as charging up to £60 per hour for any searching. The records have been recently digitised but when and where they will be made available is unclear.
The newspapers may be your best bet
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Their address was 838 Argyle Street. I have no idea "where" on Argyle Street that is.
Is there a website where one can do a general search of the content in the newspapers, instead of having to read the entire pages of death notices in every newspaper? I don't know what paper that's most likely to have their deaths listed. I'm guessing there was more than one newspaper in Glasgow in the 1950's?
If anyone is more experiences with these searches than me:
Margaret Leishman Adam - died 20 December 1952, Glasgow Western Infirmary.
John Cameron - died 18 December 1960, Glasgow Western Infirmary.
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Glasgow City Council Cemeteries Department hold the lair records for most of the cemeteries. Unfortunately however they have a reputation of not being overly genealogy friendly and have been allegedly quoted as charging up to £60 per hour for any searching. The records have been recently digitised but when and where they will be made available is unclear.
The newspapers may be your best bet
Oh wow, that's quite a steep price isn't it.. Haha. That won't be my first option then. Thank you - I'll try to locate the right newspapers and start looking.
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The two most likely would be Glasgow Herald and Evening Times. I've had a quick look on both and can't find anything. There is an acknowledgment in the herald on 4th Jan from Mrs CS Cameron and family, 43 Merrycrest Ave, Giffnock? maybe yours?
Evening Times/Glasgow Herald - http://news.google.com/newspapers
Davie
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Miss Mac, what makes you think that they weren't cremated?
Skoosh.
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The two most likely would be Glasgow Herald and Evening Times. I've had a quick look on both and can't find anything. There is an acknowledgment in the herald on 4th Jan from Mrs CS Cameron and family, 43 Merrycrest Ave, Giffnock? maybe yours?
Evening Times/Glasgow Herald - http://news.google.com/newspapers
Davie
Thank you for looking :) I don't think that person is of any relation to me. All the information given is completely unknown. Margaret Leishman Adam was born in 1899, so she would have been older than that. Thank you anyway!
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Miss Mac, what makes you think that they weren't cremated?
Skoosh.
To be honest I don't know for sure that they weren't, but I have always heard from my grandmother that they were buried at some cemetery in Glasgow that is now gone because they built a highway over it (or something like that.) I'm not sure if that's true. That's why I want to find out where they might have been buried. There has never been any tradition of cremation in our family either that I know of.
I'm from Norway, so there is little I can do other than to search the web for clues and unfortunately burials seems to be a tricky one :)
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That would be the Old Anderston Burial Ground which was in the vicinity of Argyle Sreet. I think the bodies were exhumed and buried elsewhere due to the re-development.
Your best bet is the Mitchell Library. http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/index.php
Other possibilities,
http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/
http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/index.php
Bests,
Skoosh.
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If it was the Anderston Burial Ground (North Street) then this reply to a similar query in another forum may help
Anderston Burial Grounds were closed by Sheriffs Order to make way for the development of the M8 extension in Glasgow in the 1960’s. All the remains were exhumed and removed to the Linn cemetery and were re interred in Section 26 (and possibly 22), however the remains were not indexed but all the remains were removed. The archive records for the Anderston Burial Grounds are held in The Mitchell Library, North Street, Glasgow to whom further enquiry can be made.
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Miss Mac,
I plan to be at The Mitchell tomorrow, Monday. I'll see what I can find, wish me luck.
Davie
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If it was the Anderston Burial Ground (North Street) then this reply to a similar query in another forum may help
Anderston Burial Grounds were closed by Sheriffs Order to make way for the development of the M8 extension in Glasgow in the 1960’s. All the remains were exhumed and removed to the Linn cemetery and were re interred in Section 26 (and possibly 22), however the remains were not indexed but all the remains were removed. The archive records for the Anderston Burial Grounds are held in The Mitchell Library, North Street, Glasgow to whom further enquiry can be made.
Very interesting. If they were indeed buried at Anderston (like it seems very likely they were by the replies in this thread and the stories I've heard from my family), we might still be able to "find" them, indexed or not. Thank you! :)
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Miss Mac,
I plan to be at The Mitchell tomorrow, Monday. I'll see what I can find, wish me luck.
Davie
Oh wow! Thank you :) That would be of great help if you could find anything at all relating to them while you are there. Good luck! And good night.
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Hi Miss Mac
as promised had a word with archive staff at the Mitchell today, sadly the records for burials only go up to 1916/17 for Anderston. As Falkyrn says the the grounds were closed around 1967 for the new M8 motorway and the remains removed to Linn Cemetery. It seems no records survived the move and none were kept at Linn for the re-burials.
I will PM you later this evening..
Davie
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Their address was 838 Argyle Street. I have no idea "where" on Argyle Street that is.
Is there a website where one can do a general search of the content in the newspapers, instead of having to read the entire pages of death notices in every newspaper? I don't know what paper that's most likely to have their deaths listed. I'm guessing there was more than one newspaper in Glasgow in the 1950's?
If anyone is more experiences with these searches than me:
Margaret Leishman Adam - died 20 December 1952, Glasgow Western Infirmary.
John Cameron - died 18 December 1960, Glasgow Western Infirmary.
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Their address was 838 Argyle Street. I have no idea "where" on Argyle Street that is.
Is there a website where one can do a general search of the content in the newspapers, instead of having to read the entire pages of death notices in every newspaper? I don't know what paper that's most likely to have their deaths listed. I'm guessing there was more than one newspaper in Glasgow in the 1950's?
If anyone is more experiences with these searches than me:
Margaret Leishman Adam - died 20 December 1952, Glasgow Western Infirmary.
John Cameron - died 18 December 1960, Glasgow Western Infirmary.
Hmm. What's up? Is my computer is messing with me since I can only see my own post re-quoted as the recent activity? Haha :)
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If the records only go up to 1917 would this not suggest it was full by then and no longer in use?
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John Cameron and his wife were my grandparents, which means that your grandmother, whose name begins with M, is my aunt. My mother is your great-aunt, and still lives in Glasgow. Your mother is one of two sisters who are both my cousins (obviously!!)
I have many fond memories of my grandfather, but my gran died while I was young. They lived in a tenement building at 838 Argyle Street, which is near Elderslie Street, on the middle floor of three. Your grandmother often looked after me when I was a young child. Before she married your grandfather she used to lodge in a house in Exeter Drive in Glasgow with a Mrs Johnstone. I always remember that she had the tiniest feet, and took a size 3 in uk sizes. She was very dainty. Her eldest sister was called Anna, and lived in the US, another sister Rena and my mum. Brothers Jim, Ewan and Dougie. Only my mum and your gran still alive.
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John Cameron and his wife were my grandparents, which means that your grandmother, whose name begins with M, is my aunt. My mother is your great-aunt, and still lives in Glasgow. Your mother is one of two sisters who are both my cousins (obviously!!)
I have many fond memories of my grandfather, but my gran died while I was young. They lived in a tenement building at 838 Argyle Street, which is near Elderslie Street, on the middle floor of three. Your grandmother often looked after me when I was a young child. Before she married your grandfather she used to lodge in a house in Exeter Drive in Glasgow with a Mrs Johnstone. I always remember that she had the tiniest feet, and took a size 3 in uk sizes. She was very dainty. Her eldest sister was called Anna, and lived in the US, another sister Rena and my mum. Brothers Jim, Ewan and Dougie. Only my mum and your gran still alive.
Oh wow, I thought it might be one of you guys when I saw your username! I'll PM you :)
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Oh wow, I thought it might be one of you guys when I saw your username! I'll PM you :)
Missmagee will need to make one more post before the PM system is made available. If you try sending a PM before that the system will probably return an error message saying mailbox full.
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Oh wow, I thought it might be one of you guys when I saw your username! I'll PM you :)
Missmagee will need to make one more post before the PM system is made available. If you try sending a PM before that the system will probably return an error message saying mailbox full.
Ah, OK! Didn't know that :) Haven't gotten any error message yet, but we'll see.
Thanks.
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You could try the Mitchell Library. The last time I spoke to them I seem to recall that an exercise to digitize the burial records was underway and that probably it would be possible to search them in the library.
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You could try the Mitchell Library. The last time I spoke to them I seem to recall that an exercise to digitize the burial records was underway and that probably it would be possible to search them in the library.
Not yet, have a read at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703461.0
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You could try the Mitchell Library. The last time I spoke to them I seem to recall that an exercise to digitize the burial records was underway and that probably it would be possible to search them in the library.
Not yet, have a read at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703461.0
Thanks for that Falkyrn