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Title: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: rosiesblossoms on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:26 GMT (UK)
i am looking for any information please on the family of a Mr&Mrs.Thomas Durham,from Middlesex,London.
Thomas married a lady by the name of Lily Gilchrist.
I believe that they had 5 children.
They were William Alexander Campbell Durham       2.Robert Keith Archibald Durham [1777-1842]
3.James George Durham [1878-]        4.Sarah Winifred Durham         5.Thomas  Durham
I believe that Thomas married Mary or Marion Sterling.
Any help please especially with Sarah please,i would like to start with girls first]
Thank you so much
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:28 GMT (UK)
Can you give some idea of dates?
Or at least clarify those you have given, as there cant be siblings born  1777 and 1878!
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:34 GMT (UK)
Do you have the Will of the Reverend William Alexander Campbell Durham ?

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D19572
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:35 GMT (UK)
Robert also left a PCC Will http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D76349
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks Shaunj that c!arifies the date situation

William AC marries jul/aug/sep 1838 to Sarah Edwards or Mary Simmonds
City of London ref  2  123 
(From freebmd)
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:49 GMT (UK)
William AC was buried 3 Feb 1857 at Norwood cemetery, age 81
So born about 1776 ish
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:55 GMT (UK)
Marriage
10 Mar 1814
St Augustines, Watling street

James George Durham of this parish, bachelor to Charlotte Norris of parish of Beckley in Sussex spinster
by licence
By me W A C Durham

Witnesses Robert Keith Archibald Durham, Elizabeth Blackman and Juliette Norris
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 03 December 13 17:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks Shaunj that c!arifies the date situation

William AC marries jul/aug/sep 1838 to Sarah Edwards or Mary Simmonds
City of London ref  2  123 
(From freebmd)

1851 St Matthew Friday Street, London
Rectory House
William AC Durham, head,  b 1776 London. Middx. Rector
Sarah Durham, Wife, b. 1791 Beckley, Sussex
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 03 December 13 18:03 GMT (UK)
1841 census for William AC Durham and wife Sarah, same place as 1851.
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 03 December 13 18:08 GMT (UK)
Christening
12 Jul 1809
Westminster
Robert George Durham
Father - Robert Keith Archibald Durham
Mother - Sarah

And 1 May 1806
Thomas John Robert Durham
All other details same as above
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 03 December 13 18:17 GMT (UK)
An online tree has Robert KA Durham married to Sarah Rotten, if this is correct here's the marriage.
Robert Durham m. Sarah Rotten 25 Aug 1805 Piccadilly St James Westminster.
Date and place fit with Liz's christening finds for their children in previous post.
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 03 December 13 19:21 GMT (UK)
Sarah Winifred Durham baptism 31 Mar 1782 St Martin in the Fields, Westminster.  Father Thomas, mother Lilley.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NY5R-M72
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 03 December 13 19:36 GMT (UK)
Quote
Sarah Winifred Durham baptism 31 Mar 1782 St Martin in the Fields, Westminster.  Father Thomas, mother Lilley.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NY5R-M72

Per the register image she was born 10 March 1782
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 03 December 13 19:55 GMT (UK)
James George Durham, Vicar, died 7 June 1832 Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire.
Some info on him here

http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/NewportPagnell/vicars.html

http://ccedb.cch.kcl.ac.uk/jsp/persons/DisplayCcePerson.jsp?PersonID=1805

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=james%20george%20durham%2C%20vicar%20in%20buckinghamshire&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mkheritage.co.uk%2Fnph%2Fpdf%2Fmonuments-newportpagnell-church.pdf&ei=kTaeUqClOMPT7Ab9xoHoCA&usg=AFQjCNGadXXfY4I_0zkhBFp6SDArxsY5Ig

Sorry, I wish I knew how to do the shrink link thing   :-[
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 03 December 13 20:01 GMT (UK)
Have you seen this interesting link re. the Durham family

http://digilander.libero.it/DURHAM_FAMILY/DURHAM-STRAYS-2.htm
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 03 December 13 20:12 GMT (UK)
More info on Thomas Durham (senior) the bookseller, including a possible illegitimate child

http://www.londonlives.org/browse.jsp?div=WCCDEP35828EP358280302

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DvGnuFN6_PIC&pg=PA416&lpg=PA416&dq=thomas+durham+bookseller+london&source=bl&ots=xq1CC8xQ6H&sig=lvKyqrSPN-2JLFwHs4-nbskhYhs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YjqeUrrpIayg7AbTlYC4DA&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAQ
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 03 December 13 20:57 GMT (UK)
An online tree has Robert KA Durham married to Sarah Rotten, if this is correct here's the marriage.
Robert Durham m. Sarah Rotten 25 Aug 1805 Piccadilly St James Westminster.
Date and place fit with Liz's christening finds for their children in previous post.

Its only the Bishops transcript for this marriage on Ancestry so no witnesses to help confirm that it is the right family.
It was by licence, not banns.
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 03 December 13 21:29 GMT (UK)
british newspaper archive brings u[p this snippet in the results - possibly his relict??

 “... of Mr. Robert Keith Archibald Durham, aged 79 years.  ... ”

Saturday 06 May 1865 ,  Louth and North Lincolnshire Advertiser


fits nicely with this 1861 census entry from Louth

William A Green    48 - proprietor of houses and land, b Louth
Lily Elizabeth Green    48 - b MIddlesex
Lilia Eliza Green    13
Robt R A Green    8  [possibly Robert K A]
Mary Ann Green    53 - sister, anuitant
Sarah Durham    74 - mother in law, landed proprietor and fund holder, b Birmingham
Ann Butters    16 - servant
RG 9, 2382, 17, 4

Her probate registry entry gives Lily Elizabeth Green as one of  the executor. estate under £600

Sarah Rotton
Baptism    9 Jun 1786, Birmingham, St Philip
Father   Joseph Rotton
Mother   Elizabeth Rotton
Title: Re: along quest begins can anyone help please
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 03 December 13 21:49 GMT (UK)
Thomas who marries Lilly Gilchrist in 1774 was a widower