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Hi to all Sussex Researchers
I will be visiting the East Sussex Record Office again during the week commencing 4th July (last visit before our annual holidays)
If there is anything I can look up for you, or verify from the available recods - please post the details on this thread if there is.
I would prefer Parish Register entries, Sussex Directory enquiries, Monumental Inscriptions, etc, rather than sitting in front of a viewer looking at census film, especially now that most of the census are on line.
Looking forward to having a busy day
Chris in 1066
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Hi Chris,
I have a request if it is not too time consuming or difficult.
The East Sussex Record Office has an archive called:
'Archive of Burtenshaw and Son of Hailsham, Auctioneers and Valuers'
Catalogue Ref : BUR
Administrative Records
Auction and valuation books - ref. BUR/2/1
File- Auction Book -ref. BUR/2/1/10 date Nov 1850-Sep 1851
page 211. Berwick: farming live and dead stock (Stace) 1851
also
in the same catalogue
File - Auction book- ref BUR2/1/19 date Dec 1852 Jun 1853
p116. Berwick, blacksmith's shop: house, wheelwright's and blacksmith's shops (late White) 1853
I would dearly like to know any details that you maybe able to copy down if it is not too time consuming. The second reference about the wheelwright's interests me as John Stace was a wheelwright in Berwick before coming out to NZ, (he may have sold out to White,)but I hoped it might have a description of the house or shop, I don't imagine Berwick was big enough to have two wheelwright establishments!!
Your generous offer is too good to miss, but I will quite understand if it falls into the" too hard basket".
Best regards,
kiwi.
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Hello Chris :)
Thank you for your very kind offer. I was wondering if you could possibly have the time to see if there's any monumental inscriptions for Frant and Arlington ? I'm trying to establish which Edward Page is my ancestor and i'm hoping there's some clues in the MI's.
Edward Paige died in the March qtr (FreeBMD)of 1893 (aged 70)
at Frant in the Ticehurst reg district.
There's another Edward Page (spelling is different) who died in the June qtr(FreeBMD)of 1874 (aged 71) at Arlington in the Hailsham reg district.
Fingers crossed you might find some little clue, im totally lost !!
I've searched for his sons birth certificate for years to no avail. All i know is that Edward is a farmer according to his sons marriage certificate.
Thanks for your time, it's much appreciated.
Regards Val
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Greetings Chris,
Ta muchly for your kind offer. I will restrain my self and only ask for one :)
Would like to have the death and if possible age of William EDWARDS. He died sometime between 1851 and 1861census. He was in Hartfield in the 1851 census and was born abt 1805. I checked the free BMD and found two possibilities in East Grimstead in1852. I thought perhaps his death maybe in a Hartfield PR. This fellow is one of my brick walls.
Thanks again.
Kaye
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Thanks very much for your kind offer Chris.
I was hoping you might be able to help me fill in some details regarding the parents of my GGGG Grandfather George Stace who was christened on the 4 November 1804 in Heathfield, Sussex. I know there names were George and Mary but not any of their BMD details. Could you please check the Heathfield Parish records for their marriage details and potentially also for their birth details?
Any help in uncovering another generation in my family history would be greatfully received.
Many thanks Chris.
Darren
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Hi there
Kiwi, Valley, Eds & Daz68
Have printed off your lookup requests and will use these as my work sheets.
I am also in Lewes all next week - re-transcribing the monuments in St John the Baptist, Southover.
They were originally done by school children back in 1996, but recent research on some of the stones that are going to be moved to provide Disabled Access and Toilet Facilities has shown that quite a few errors were made - so we are going to do them again.
So, if we get a very wet day next week, it might see me in the record office earlier than expected.
Chris in 1066
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Hi Chris,
Can u help me too pls. Just discovered my Grandad Herbert William Sennitt died in Easbourne on 30.12.1930. I have the certificate, but need to know if he was actually married to his 'Widow' E. Sennitt as he left my Nan for another woman and if i am right she would not divorce him and was apparently notified when he died (I think) as next of kin. Is there any way of finding out if he had any more children with this lady or if he left a will, which might throw some insight into it. He lived at 76 Pevensey Rd. Eastbourne but died at 123 Church St. Eastbourne. I have been on to all the sites but can only find him and my dad, who had the same name. Hope u can help, thanx a lot.
Margaret.
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Chris,
Please could you look up in their index of baptism for 2 people.
all Thomas RICHARDSON b 1735 - 1747
all Elizabeth BROOKER b abt 1735 - 1747
I know this couple married 15 Apr 1766. Plumpton. and they had childen in Alciston and Street but it would be useful to know if there were many other Thomas Richardson's born around this time so i can try and work out who his parent were.
i am guessing that they were about 20yrs old when they married
Many thanks
Kay
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Chris,
Please could you also check the index to Baptims for
William RICHARDSON.
he was born about 1836 in Lewes area according to 1861, 71 & 81 census. His marriage cert states his father was a Richard Richardson
Unfortunatly I cannot find him on the 1851 to confirm this
Many thanks
Kay
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Chris,
Lucky us! Another visit to the Records Office!
If time permits, verification of the two following events would be appreciated:
Christening of William James Sayers, 18 Aug/1832, London Road – Countess of Huntingdon’s, Brighton.
Marriage of Caroline Sayers to George Picknell, 23 July 1843, St. Nicholas, Brighton.
With thanks,
~meg
PS: Chris, for your info I will be on holidays during the time of your visit to the Records Office and will not have computer access to acknowledge any replies.
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Hi There
M.Sharp, Cullen & ~Meg
Have printed off your lookup requests and will use these as my work sheets.
M.Sharp - Your request may be to late/to recent to be deposited in the record office.
Cullen - There is not an index of Baptisms; each church has its own book on the shelf and I think there are some 100 odd books to look through - can you be a bit more specific where you think they might be please?
~Meg - Will hold your answer over till you are back on line again
Chris in 1066
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Chris,
Please can you look in the Hailsham Parish Registers for any CROWHURST or ROADS (RHODES; ROODS) entries in the 1700s? Also, thanks for offering to look up the SELLENS information that was on your list from last time.
Regards
Mark
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>Will hold your answer over till you are back on line again<
Chris, It will be all right for you to post anything for me when you post the results for all posters. I don’t expect you to be my personal clerk on top of everything else you do! On the Boards will be fine and I’ll make looking there one of my first priorities when I return.
Thank you,
~meg
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Chris,
When I visited the ESRO 3 years ago, they did have an index as I photocopied some out of it. It is possible that it no longer exists.
It was in ring binders on a desk, near the enquiry desk.
Unfortunatly I cannot be more spefic about the locations, so if the index no longer exists please forget my questions - however.... can you take them with you just in case?
Many thanks
Kay
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Hi there
Kay
Of course I will
Wouldn't dream of going all that way (74 miles round trip) without all of my queries/lookups. ;)
~Meg
Better do as I am told then - after all, who am I to argue with a lady ;D
Mnmilt
Yes, got both of your queries printed off ready
Chris in 1066
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Hello Chris
Another kind offer of yours to look up parish records etc, you are too kind.
If I'm not too late is it possible to see if you can have another look for a burial record
for Isaac Smith and Elizabeth Smith after 1862 in Hastings? When you last
visited the record office it was one on my list but you said as yet you had
been unable to locate it.
Also I have been hunting low and high for this one a marriage between
William (or Isaac ) Smith and Agnes ? Possibly 1872 onwards in Hastings, both born according to the 1881 in Hastings.
Thank you very much again, good luck
Ewan
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Hi Chris -
Another request to add to the long list - you won't have time to do any of your own research if you satisfy everyone !
Looking for details from an Archdeaconry of Lewes marriage licence - William Vine and Mary Bradford, 23 May 1803. What I need is everything it contains (if anything!) about William Vine's father (and mother - but I doubt it will go that far) - name, place of origin, age?
The marriage itself took place in Willingdon, so it's possible that the information is in Willingdon parish records rather than the licence. Not sure how the system worked.
Many thanks if you can do this for me !
cheers
Steve Henley aka silicondale
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Thanks Chris
You have quite a list already, if you have time I am looking for anything on the death of Elizabeth (Eliza)Blundell died sometime between 1833 & Jun 1838. Last child was baptised in Bodiam.
Thanks Oz Kim
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Hi Chris,
I am desperate to find the baptism of Nellie Ivy Jewhurst so I can ascertain her parents to move further back.She was born in 1898 in Rye.
Many thanks and if you need anything for Devon I'm your man well woman. :P
Best Wishes
Debbi
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Hello Chris,
I am just checking the boards after being away from home for several weeks visiting my family. What a very kind offer! I can see that you are going to be very busy already, so this is only if you have enough time, ok?
My lookup is from the Mayfield parish registers.
Thomas Kemp, son of William and Frances Kemp, was baptised on 3 March 1834 along with his three of his younger sisters, Ruth, Hannah and Elizabeth. It was the same day as Elizabeth's marriage to Richard Habens.
Another cousin researching the same family told me that the baptism record also gave the birthdates of the four children. Thomas' date of birth being 16 Sept 1833. I thought at the time that he must have been a heck of a shock for his parents as they would both have been 58 at the time, 15 years after the birth of their last child!
What puzzles me is that in William Kemp's will of 1838, he appears to name his children in order of age. Thomas is named as his second son, between William b.1804 and Richard b.1818. Please could you check the baptism record and see if it does indeed give the birthdate of Thomas as 1833? Perhaps my cousin misread the date.
Also, on the Sussex Marriage Index I found a marriage of a Thomas Kemp to Elizabeth Blackman in Mayfield on 26 August 1835. I am thinking that if the birthdate for Thomas I've been given is wrong, then this could well be my Thomas. Could you also check for witnesses of this marriage if you have time please? They may just ring a few bells...
Many thanks,
Chris :
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Hi Chris,
If you have time could you possibly look into
JOHN NEWNHAM born 1826 Fletching/Horsted Keynes
BENJAMIN NEWNHAM born 1824
I would like to know if they were brothers and if there were any other siblings.
Also could you verify the following marriage.
CAROLINE NEWNHAM TO GEORGE BROWNING, 1877 Danehill.
Many Thanks,
Kim
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Chris,
One to cross OFF your list so you have more time for others
Elizabeth BROOKER b abt 1735 - 1745
I found her baptism in Street 1737
Many thanks
Kay
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Hi Chris,
If l`m not to late could you possibly look up the following baptism in Isfield, Sussex.?
John JENNER c1803 Son of John JENNER & Sarah nee TAYLOR.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Robert
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Hi there Sussex Researchers
Today, I spent just over 5 hours in the East Sussex Record Office at Lewes and had a really usefull day in finding answers to your queries.
Got a few household chores to catch up with before I start posting the results later this evening
Watch this space
Chris in 1066
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Hi Kiwi
have a request if it is not too time consuming or difficult.
The East Sussex Record Office has an archive called:
'Archive of Burtenshaw and Son of Hailsham, Auctioneers and Valuers'
Catalogue Ref : BUR
Administrative Records
Auction and valuation books - ref. BUR/2/1
File- Auction Book -ref. BUR/2/1/10 date Nov 1850-Sep 1851
page 211. Berwick: farming live and dead stock (Stace) 1851
also
in the same catalogue
File - Auction book- ref BUR2/1/19 date Dec 1852 Jun 1853
p116. Berwick, blacksmith's shop: house, wheelwright's and blacksmith's shops (late White) 1853
At the record Office today, I filled in my little 'request slips' for obtaining documents from below stairs, but instead was told that Bur/2/1/19 and Bur/2/1/10 were not kept on the premises.
They need 7 to 10 days notice to bring them in from where they are kept.
Sorry about that
Will put in a request for same in plenty of time for my next visit which is likely to be in September
Chris in 1066
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hi Valley
Edward Paige died in the March qtr (FreeBMD)of 1893 (aged 70)
at Frant in the Ticehurst reg district.
There's another Edward Page (spelling is different) who died in the June qtr(FreeBMD)of 1874 (aged 71) at Arlington in the Hailsham reg district.
Fingers crossed you might find some little clue, im totally lost !!
I've searched for his sons birth certificate for years to no avail. All i know is that Edward is a farmer according to his sons marriage certificate.
Unfortunately the books containing the Register Transcriptions which are on open access on the shelves in the record office did not cover the time period we were looking for.
Burials were from 1543 up to 1813 only in Frant
Burials were from 1607 up to 1812 only in Arlington
so was unable to complete your lookup request
Sorry
Chris in 1066
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Hi Ed
Ta muchly for your kind offer. I will restrain my self and only ask for one
Would like to have the death and if possible age of William EDWARDS. He died sometime between 1851 and 1861census. He was in Hartfield in the 1851 census and was born abt 1805. I checked the free BMD and found two possibilities in East Grimstead in1852. I thought perhaps his death maybe in a Hartfield PR. This fellow is one of my brick walls.
Unfortunately the Parish Registers transcripts for Hartfield that were on open access on the shelves at the record office covered the period
1793 to 1812 and 1881 to 1934
so the period we wanted 1851 to 1861 was not covered.
Found this Baptism in the Hartfield Registers
June 10th 1804, William Edwards, son of William and Annie
Could not check the East Grinstead Register for Burials as it covered the period 1558 up to 1812 only
Chris in 1066
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Hi Chris
Please can tou look a birth of a George Harman born 1850 in Rotherfield East Sussex need to know who his parents are and weather he had any brothers or sisters thank you for taking the time you are a great help to all rootschatters
Jim
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Daz68
Hi Darren
I was hoping you might be able to help me fill in some details regarding the parents of my GGGG Grandfather George Stace who was christened on the 4 November 1804 in Heathfield, Sussex. I know there names were George and Mary but not any of their BMD details. Could you please check the Heathfield Parish records for their marriage details and potentially also for their birth details?
Any help in uncovering another generation in my family history would be greatfully received.
I checked the Baptisms in Heathfield Register between 1751 and 1818 and found the following which is the only Stace family listed during this period.
Nov 4th 1804, George Stace, son of George & Mary
Apr 5th 1807, Mary Stace, dau of George & ?
Dec 20th 1807, Sophia Stace, dau of George & Mary (Aged 5 Years)
Mar 15th 1812, Susanna Stace, dau of George & Mary
May 19th 1816, Martha Stace, dau of George & Mary, Labourer
Jul 26th 1818, Sarah Stace, dau of George & Mary, Labourer
There were no marriages of a Stace in Heathfield between 1780 and 1812
but there was this in Arlington and according to the sussex marriage index is the only George Stace marrying a Mary during this period
Location: Arlington, East Sussex, Date: 24 Mar 1796:
Groom: George STACE, of this parish
Bride: Mary ALLCHIN, West Firle
Married by Licence
I had a look in the Burial Registers to see if Stace was a common name in Heathfield - only four entries in 60 years between 1754 and 1813
25th Jan 1774 - John Stace was buried
24th Jul 1764 - Thomas
14th July 1763 - Mary, wife of Thomas
3rd Dec 1754 - Mary, wife of John
Its my opinion that George and Mary married elsewhere and moved to heathfield where they possibly had relations and had the rest of their children there.
Possibly a look in the Arlington register for earlier children might throw a bit more light on this
Hope the above is usefull
Chris in 1066
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Hi Jim
Please can tou look a birth of a George Harman born 1850 in Rotherfield East Sussex need to know who his parents are and weather he had any brothers or sisters thank you for taking the time you are a great help to all rootschatters
Sorry, I was at the record office in Lewes today, so you have missed out I am afraid - unfortunately I will not be there again until September
Chris in 1066
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M Sharpe
Hi Margaret
Can u help me too pls. Just discovered my Grandad Herbert William Sennitt died in Easbourne on 30.12.1930. I have the certificate, but need to know if he was actually married to his 'Widow' E. Sennitt as he left my Nan for another woman and if i am right she would not divorce him and was apparently notified when he died (I think) as next of kin. Is there any way of finding out if he had any more children with this lady or if he left a will, which might throw some insight into it. He lived at 76 Pevensey Rd. Eastbourne but died at 123 Church St. Eastbourne. I have been on to all the sites but can only find him and my dad, who had the same name. Hope u can help, thanx a lot.
Sorry Margaret, the info you require is too modern for the record office in Lewes - I think a better bet might be the Library in Eastbourne
Eastbourne Central Library
Reference Department
Grove Road
Eastbourne, East Sussex BN21 4TL
Tel: (01323) 434211
Fax: (01323) 434202
Email: library.eastbourne@eastsussexcc.gov.uk
library.eastbourneref@eastsussexcc.gov.uk
Information Services Librarian: Dhimati Acharya
Chris in 1066
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Greetings Chris,
Thank you so much for researching. Trust this William to remain difficult.
I will have to follow up with that baptism you found.
I sure appreciate your kind offers.
Kaye
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Cullen
hi Kay
Please could you look up in their index of baptism for 2 people.
all Thomas RICHARDSON b 1735 - 1747
all Elizabeth BROOKER b abt 1735 - 1747
I know this couple married 15 Apr 1766. Plumpton. and they had childen in Alciston and Street but it would be useful to know if there were many other Thomas Richardson's born around this time so i can try and work out who his parent were.
i am guessing that they were about 20yrs old when they married
Sorry, but it is not possible to do a blanket search of Sussex for a baptism - you have to go through every church register which would have been very time consuming.
Found these in the Baptism Register
21st May 1769, Sarah Richardson, dau of Thos & Elizabeth
5th May 1771, Ann Richardson, dau of Thos and Elizabeth
18th Sep 1774, Samuel & Thomas, Twin sons of Thos and Elizabeth
30th Mar 1777, William Richardson, son of Thos and Elizabeth
6th Jun 1779, Elizabeth, dau of Thos and Elizabeth
Found these in the Streat Baptism Registers
12th Jun 1737, Elizabeth Brooker, dau of Benajah and Elizabeth
12th May 1739, Mary, ditto
14th Feb 1741, Sarah, ditto
10th July 1742, Ann, ditto
17th Feb 1744, Susanna, ditto
24th May 1747, Jane, ditto
7th Jan 1748, ?, ditto
17th Feb 1752, Thomas, ditto
Also noticed this one marriage
William Arnold of Chailey and Susan Brooker on 28th Oct 1766
Hope some of the above helps you
Chris in 1066
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Hi Chris,
Many thanks for trying for the Stace information, I do appreciate it, maybe in September if you have the time, I will post a reminder if I may?
Best regards,
kiwi.
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Cullen
hi Kay
Please could you also check the index to Baptims for
William RICHARDSON.
he was born about 1836 in Lewes area according to 1861, 71 & 81 census. His marriage cert states his father was a Richard Richardson
Unfortunatly I cannot find him on the 1851 to confirm this
According to the Baptism index of Lewes which in this case seems to cover most of Lewes, there is only i entry in 1836 of a William Richardson as follows:
St John the Baptist, Southover
27th March 1836,
William Richardson, son of - and Elizabeth, Servant & Spinster
the next entry for a William was in 1846, son of Robert and Mary
Hope the helps, but somehow I dont think so ;D
Chris in 1066
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Kiwi
yes please
It is likely to be mid to late September, but a reminder from yourself for me to ask for the records to be brought to the RO would then have plenty of time to be actioned
Sorry I could not do it today
Chris in 1066
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~meg
If time permits, verification of the two following events would be appreciated:
Christening of William James Sayers, 18 Aug/1832, London Road – Countess of Huntingdon’s, Brighton.
Marriage of Caroline Sayers to George Picknell, 23 July 1843, St. Nicholas, Brighton.
Sorry but could not find a Parish Register transcript for the Countess of Huntingdon, and do not think it was included in the main register of baptisms for Brighton as it only came up with these two near the date you required
William Sayers, son of henry & Ann, Thomas Street, Brighton on 12th July 1829 - Labourer
William Sayers, son of James & Jane, Chapel Street, Brighton on 4th Sept 1836 - Cordwainer.
The marriage index book and the parish register for St Nicholas, Brighton only went up to 1837 - so was unable to check for the marriage of Caroline
Sorry, but have failed you once again
Chris in 1066
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mnmilt
hi Mark
Please can you look in the Hailsham Parish Registers for any CROWHURST or ROADS (RHODES; ROODS) entries in the 1700s? Also, thanks for offering to look up the SELLENS information that was on your list from last time.
I have completed this, but I now have a lot of typing to do to give you the info, so will post this request in the morning when my fingers have got some life back in them.
Left this request till next till last, but it took so long to complete that I did not leave myself enough time to request the documents for the SELLENS information you required
Chris in 1066
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Ewan
Hi there
If I'm not too late is it possible to see if you can have another look for a burial record
for Isaac Smith and Elizabeth Smith after 1862 in Hastings? When you last
visited the record office it was one on my list but you said as yet you had
been unable to locate it.
Also I have been hunting low and high for this one a marriage between
William (or Isaac ) Smith and Agnes ? Possibly 1872 onwards in Hastings, both born according to the 1881 in Hastings.
I checked St Clements up to 1883 for the marriage, but without success and All Saints registers only went up to 1777 from 1559, so was unable to check that register.
Found this burial though
All Saints, Hastings
December 28th 1868, Elizabeth Smith, aged 32 years
Chris in 1066
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Silicondale
hi there Steve
Looking for details from an Archdeaconry of Lewes marriage licence - William Vine and Mary Bradford, 23 May 1803. What I need is everything it contains (if anything!) about William Vine's father (and mother - but I doubt it will go that far) - name, place of origin, age?
The marriage itself took place in Willingdon, so it's possible that the information is in Willingdon parish records rather than the licence. Not sure how the system worked.
24th May 1803 at Willingdon
William Vine of Heathfield and Mary Bradford of Willingdon
by Licence
Witnessed by Ann Chase and Charles Virrell
Working on the above info, I looked in the Heathfield Register for a baptism about 20 years earlier and found this
5th March 1872, William Vine, son of William & Mary
other children to William and Mary included
Mary in 1780
James in 1790
Charlotte in 1799
Charles in 1784
Sarah in 1786
George in 1794
John in 1788
Lydia in 1796
Tried to find a baptism for Mary Bradford in Willingdon - but without success I am afraid
Hope the above helps
Chris in 1066
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Silicondale
hi again Steve
Found these marriags in Willingdon
1st April 1782:
Friend Dyer of Eastbourne, Bachelor and
Philadelphia Vine of Willingdon, Widow
Witnessed by William Dyer and John allwork
2nd April 1811
James Muggeridge of Rotherfield, Bachelor and
Philadelphia Vine, Spinster of Willingdon
by licence
witnessed by Charles Dendrell and Maria Ceaplin
Also found these Burials
Charlotte Vine, 7th Feb 1800
Charles Vine, 18th Sept 1802, son of William
Charles Vine, 22nd Aug 1820, aged 16 months
Mary Vine, 4th Feb 1781, infant dau of William & Mary
The two bold entries match up with children of William / Mary in previous post indicating that possibly William & Mary moved from Heathfield to Willingdon in 1780
Chris in 1066
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Hi Oz Kim
You have quite a list already, if you have time I am looking for anything on the death of Elizabeth (Eliza)Blundell died sometime between 1833 & Jun 1838. Last child was baptised in Bodiam.
Information taken from Bodiam Registers
Index to Burials by C J Barnes
Blundell Elizabeth, buried 20th Dec 1834 aged 33 Years
Blundell Ann, buried 2nd Dec 1828 aged 10 years
Baptisms
9th Sept 1821, William Blundell, son of Thomas and Elizabeth, Labourer
28th June 1829, Emma Blundell, dau of ditto
20th Nov 1831, Hannah Blundell, ditto
29th Dec 1833, James Blundell, son of ditto
13th Mar, 1823, George Blundell, son of ditto
Hope that helps
Chris in 1066
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Debbie2k
hi Debbie
I am desperate to find the baptism of Nellie Ivy Jewhurst so I can ascertain her parents to move further back.She was born in 1898 in Rye.
Sorry Debbie, but the Parish Registers for Rye only went up to 1846, so was unable to complete your query
My apologies
Chris in 1066
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Chris,
Thanks for looking up the Crowhursts and Roads in the Hailsham Parish Register. I look forward to seeing the information. Can you keep the SELLENS request on your list for your next visit?
Thanks
Mark
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Muvva
Hi Chris
My lookup is from the Mayfield parish registers.
Thomas Kemp, son of William and Frances Kemp, was baptised on 3 March 1834 along with his three of his younger sisters, Ruth, Hannah and Elizabeth. It was the same day as Elizabeth's marriage to Richard Habens.
Another cousin researching the same family told me that the baptism record also gave the birthdates of the four children. Thomas' date of birth being 16 Sept 1833. I thought at the time that he must have been a heck of a shock for his parents as they would both have been 58 at the time, 15 years after the birth of their last child!
Thomas 16th Sept 1833
Elizabeth 1st Feb 1805
Hannah 18th Feb 1807
Ruth 1st Mar 1813
3rd March 1834 marriage details correct - Richard Habens and Elizabeth Kemp
What puzzles me is that in William Kemp's will of 1838, he appears to name his children in order of age. Thomas is named as his second son, between William b.1804 and Richard b.1818. Please could you check the baptism record and see if it does indeed give the birthdate of Thomas as 1833? Perhaps my cousin misread the date.
Also, on the Sussex Marriage Index I found a marriage of a Thomas Kemp to Elizabeth Blackman in Mayfield on 26 August 1835. I am thinking that if the birthdate for Thomas I've been given is wrong, then this could well be my Thomas. Could you also check for witnesses of this marriage if you have time please? They may just ring a few bells...
Marriage of Thomas Kemp to Elizabeth Blackman is 5th October 1835 - both of this parish
Baptisms
Nov 19th 1809, Thomas Kemp, son of Mary
Jan 7th 1810, John (aged 2 years 6 months) Kemp, son of Mary
Hope this has not confused you
Chris in 1066
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mnmilt
Hi Mark
There are some 3 x A4 pages of Crowhursts and just a handful of Roads - both with many spelling variations.
Will keep the Sellens on file for September
Chris in 1066
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Robsal
Hi there Robert
If l`m not to late could you possibly look up the following baptism in Isfield, Sussex.?
John JENNER c1803 Son of John JENNER & Sarah nee TAYLOR.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
The Parish Registers for Isfield which are on the open access shelves contained the following baptism transcriptions:
1700 - 1789
1813 - 1861
1862 - 1948
so 1790 to 1812 was missing - we wanted 1803, 'sods law aint it'
But was able to confirm a marriage of August 30th 1802 between John Jenner and Sarah Taylor at Isfield
Sorry Robert
Chris in 1066
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Hi Chris,
Thank you so much for all of your help and the time you have spent in searching.
I have the marriage license for John Jenner & Sarah Taylor but it`s nice to see they actually went through with the marriage. ;D
Once again you have my sincere thanks.
Robert
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M Sharpe
Hi Margaret
Can u help me too pls. Just discovered my Grandad Herbert William Sennitt died in Easbourne on 30.12.1930. I have the certificate, but need to know if he was actually married to his 'Widow' E. Sennitt as he left my Nan for another woman and if i am right she would not divorce him and was apparently notified when he died (I think) as next of kin. Is there any way of finding out if he had any more children with this lady or if he left a will, which might throw some insight into it. He lived at 76 Pevensey Rd. Eastbourne but died at 123 Church St. Eastbourne. I have been on to all the sites but can only find him and my dad, who had the same name. Hope u can help, thanx a lot.
Sorry Margaret, the info you require is too modern for the record office in Lewes - I think a better bet might be the Library in Eastbourne
Eastbourne Central Library
Reference Department
Grove Road
Eastbourne, East Sussex BN21 4TL
Tel: (01323) 434211
Fax: (01323) 434202
Email: library.eastbourne@eastsussexcc.gov.uk
library.eastbourneref@eastsussexcc.gov.uk
Information Services Librarian: Dhimati Acharya
Chris in 1066
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Hello Chris,
Thanx ever so much for taking the time. I will follow the leads u've given me. Do they give medals on this site? U had soooo much to do, can i have a pound of your patience pls.
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Hi Chris :)
Thank you very much for your time and effort in trying to find the monumental inscriptions for Edward Page of Arlington and Frant. Although they didn't exist for that time period i really appreciate your help.
Thanks again
Valley :)
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Chris - Many thanks indeed for finding the info on William Vine and his family! Very useful, pointing me in a different direction completely from what I had surmised. - Steve
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Sussexkim
Hi there Kim
JOHN NEWNHAM born 1826 Fletching/Horsted Keynes
BENJAMIN NEWNHAM born 1824
I would like to know if they were brothers and if there were any other siblings.
Also could you verify the following marriage.
CAROLINE NEWNHAM TO GEORGE BROWNING, 1877 Danehill.
The Baptism Registers for Fletching only covered the period 1829 - 1878, so was unable to check in those.
The Baptism Registers for Horsted Keynes gave the following
3rd December 1826, John Newnham, son of Robert and Philly, Labourer, Mopes.
other children listed to those parents included
7th Dec 1823 - Annesley
14th Dec 1823 - Robert (aged 2 years)
3rd Dec 1826 - John
The only Benjamin Newnham I could find was the following
23rd August 1829, Benjamin George Newnham, son of Benjamin and Tirzah, Labourer, Annwood.
There were a lot of other children belonging to Benjamin and Tirzah
Marriages in Danehill
Entry No 112
3rd March 1877, Caroline Newnham and George Browning
other marriages around the same time that might be of interest from the Danehill Register include
No 98 - 4th Apr 1874, Benjamin Newnham to Susan Elizabeth Lucas
No 117 - 20th Oct 1877, John Robert Newnham to Eliza Tomsett
No 127 - 9th June 1879, Benjamin Newnham to Mercy Funnell
No 159 - 16th May 1885, Richard Newnham to Charlotte Brown
No 190 - 8th Feb 1890, George Newnham to Ann Marten
No 199 - 10th Feb 1891, Henry Newnham to Beatrice Pollard
No 202 - 10th Feb 1892, Benjamin Newnham to Mary Crombie
No 222 - 21st Jan 1894, Richard Newnham to Charlotte Brown
No 228 - 14th Apr 1894, Thomas Newnham to Adela Weller
Hope the above is of help to you
Chris in 1066
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mnmilt
Hi Mark
Please can you look in the Hailsham Parish Registers for any CROWHURST or ROADS (RHODES; ROODS) entries in the 1700s? Also, thanks for offering to look up the SELLENS information that was on your list from last time.
Variations of the Crowhurst name that I came across included
CROWHURST, CROWHERST, CORWHERST, CROHURST, CROWAST and CROWSHURST
All this information came from entries in the transcripts of the Hailsham Parish Registers between 1700 and 1800.
Marriages
March 4th 1729, Mary Crowhurst and William Nutley, both of this parish
11th Sept 1765, Samuel Crowhurst and Sarah Pierce, botp
4th Jan 1776, William Crowhurst and Sarah Roberts, botp
16th July 1777, Thomas Crowhurst and Mary Rich, botp
22nd Sept 1780, Henry Crowhurst and Mary Wood of this parish
9th July 1783, Sarah Crowhurst and William Woods of this parish
20th May 1790, Sarah Crowhurst and John Mynn of this parish by Licence
22nd May 1797, Elizabeth Crowhurst and William Hitchener of this parish by Licence
14th Nov 1799, Mary Crowhurst and John Gipson Clare of Chilham in Kent
28th Sept 1747, William Roads and Mary Crowast
18th Jan 1773, Mary Roads and John Sinnock by Licence
End of part 1
Chris in 1066
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mnmilt
Hi again Mark
Please can you look in the Hailsham Parish Registers for any CROWHURST or ROADS (RHODES; ROODS) entries in the 1700s? Also, thanks for offering to look up the SELLENS information that was on your list from last time.
Baptisms in the Hailsham Registers
I have attempted to group them in families rather than in date order.
11th April 1748, Samuel Roads, son of William and Mary
5th Nov 1750, Mary Roods, dau of William and Mary
16th Nov 1772, Elizabeth Roods, dau of Mary
16th June 1706, John Crowhurst, son of Thomas & Elizabeth
18th Sept 1709, Elizabeth Crowhurst, dau of Thomas & Elizabeth
28th Mar 1712, Mary Crowhurst, dau of George and Elizabeth
3rd June 1714, Samuel Crowhurst, son of George and Elizabeth
17th Sept 1716, Henry Crowhurst, son of George and Elizabeth
22nd Oct 1718, Elizabeth Crowhurst, dau of George and Elizabeth
20th Dec 1726, Lucy Crowhurst, dau of Thomas
5th April 1752, John Crowhurst, son of John and Sarah
8th Nov 1765, Samuel Crowhurst, son of Samuel and Sarah
10th May 1769, Sarah Crowhurst, dau of Samuel and Sarah
28th Apr 1776, James Crowhurst, son of William and Sarah
28th Sept 1778, Herriout Crowhurst, dau of ditto
9th Feb 1781, Charles Crowhurst, son of ditto
29th Apr 1783, William Crowhurst, son of ditto
21st April 1785, Lydia Crowhurst, dau of ditto
29th Nov 1795, John Crowhurst, son of ditto
17th nov 1778, John Corwhurst, son of Thomas and Mary
31st Mar 1780, Elizabeth Corwhurst, dau of Thomas and Mary
21st Dec 1781, samuel Corwhurst, son of Thomas and Mary
28th March 1781, Jenny Crowhurst, dau of Henry and Mary
10th Sep 1797, Mary Crowhurst, dau of Mary
16th Mar 1790, Fanny Crowhurst, dau of William and Mary
7th Jan 1798, James Crowhurst, son of William and Mary
13th May 1799, Robert Crowhurst, son of William and Mary
23rd June 1790, William Crowhurst, son of James and Sarah
16th Jun 1793, Elizabeth Crowhurst, dau of James and Sarah
End of part 2
Chris in 1066
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mnmilt
Hi again Mark
Burials in Hailsham Parish Registers for Surname Crowhurst and Variant between 1700 and 1800 - in date order
1700 April 15, Richard
1701 Jan 6th, Katherine, Widow
1704 Dec 29th, Eliz
1708 Sept 30th, Benjamin, son of George
1721 Nov 3rd, Elizabeth, wife of George
1726 Mar 7th, Lucy, dau of Thomas
1729 Mar 26th, Thomas
1766 Mar 29th, Samuel, son of Samuel and Sarah
1768 May 30th, Samuel
1777 Sep 10th, Samuel of Sareland
1782 Mar 8th, George
1782 Jul 29th, Samuel, son of Thomas and Mary
1783 Aug 20th, John, son of Thomas and Mary
1786 Jul 28th, William, son of William and Sarah
1786 Sep 5th, Henry
1791 Dec 6th, James, Infant
1792 Oct 18th, Samuel
1794 Mar 17th, Mary
1794 May 25th, Elizabeth, dau of William and Mary
Burials in Hailsham Parish Registers for Surname Roads and Variant between 1700 and 1800 - in date order
NILL
End of Part 3
That is all the information that I could find - hope it meets with your satisfaction
Chris in 1066
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Dear Chris,
thank you for looking anyway.Sorry to have wasted your time ???
Will you be going again soon as I have another small request if you are.
Debbi ;D
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Chris,
Many thanks for your hard work, it is very much appreciated.
Kay
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hi Debbie
thank you for looking anyway.Sorry to have wasted your time
Will you be going again soon as I have another small request if you are.
You were not wasting my time, sorry I could not find what you wanted
But Yes, I will be going again early September (after my holiday), so look forward to reading your request nearer that date
Chris in 1066
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Dear Chris,
you are a star ;D
Debbi
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Hi Chris,
re: Sayers. Thank you very much for looking. I will keep the Sayers names that you did find on file - perhaps one day I will be able to make a connection.
Oh, and by the way, what's this "failed me once again" comment? Never!
~meg
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Hi ~meg
Oh, and by the way, what's this "failed me once again" comment?
It just seems that anything you require from a lookup, I usually come back with a negative response.
Is it 'Sods Law' or what?
Chris in 1066
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Thanks VERY much Chris.
You have been very helpful in finding a couple of further brothers and sisters of George that I didn't know about and you have also opened up another avenue of enquiry for me in the Arlington area. Once again many thanks for your the time and effort you have gone to.
Best regards.
Darren
Daz68
Hi Darren
I was hoping you might be able to help me fill in some details regarding the parents of my GGGG Grandfather George Stace who was christened on the 4 November 1804 in Heathfield, Sussex. I know there names were George and Mary but not any of their BMD details. Could you please check the Heathfield Parish records for their marriage details and potentially also for their birth details?
Any help in uncovering another generation in my family history would be greatfully received.
I checked the Baptisms in Heathfield Register between 1751 and 1818 and found the following which is the only Stace family listed during this period.
Nov 4th 1804, George Stace, son of George & Mary
Apr 5th 1807, Mary Stace, dau of George & ?
Dec 20th 1807, Sophia Stace, dau of George & Mary (Aged 5 Years)
Mar 15th 1812, Susanna Stace, dau of George & Mary
May 19th 1816, Martha Stace, dau of George & Mary, Labourer
Jul 26th 1818, Sarah Stace, dau of George & Mary, Labourer
There were no marriages of a Stace in Heathfield between 1780 and 1812
but there was this in Arlington and according to the sussex marriage index is the only George Stace marrying a Mary during this period
Location: Arlington, East Sussex, Date: 24 Mar 1796:
Groom: George STACE, of this parish
Bride: Mary ALLCHIN, West Firle
Married by Licence
I had a look in the Burial Registers to see if Stace was a common name in Heathfield - only four entries in 60 years between 1754 and 1813
25th Jan 1774 - John Stace was buried
24th Jul 1764 - Thomas
14th July 1763 - Mary, wife of Thomas
3rd Dec 1754 - Mary, wife of John
Its my opinion that George and Mary married elsewhere and moved to heathfield where they possibly had relations and had the rest of their children there.
Possibly a look in the Arlington register for earlier children might throw a bit more light on this
Hope the above is usefull
Chris in 1066
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Sod’s Law? No, more like Howe’s Law, I think: “Every man has a scheme which will not work.”! It’s me. I’m going to have to change my scheme obviously! I’ll work on it over the summer and have one ready for your visit in September.
Have a wonderful holiday,
~meg
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Chris,
Many thanks for the Crowhurst/Roods information. It has been most helpful and given me a few more leads. It has also naturally created a few more loose ends that I will need to tie up some time! Sorry that I haven't been in contact sooner but I have been in Northen Vermont on vacation.
Thanks once again for your help.
Regards
Mark
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Hi Chris,
The Baptism Registers for Fletching only covered the period 1829 - 1878, so was unable to check in those.
The Baptism Registers for Horsted Keynes gave the following
3rd December 1826, John Newnham, son of Robert and Philly, Labourer, Mopes.
other children listed to those parents included
7th Dec 1823 - Annesley
14th Dec 1823 - Robert (aged 2 years)
3rd Dec 1826 - John
The only Benjamin Newnham I could find was the following
23rd August 1829, Benjamin George Newnham, son of Benjamin and Tirzah, Labourer, Annwood.
There were a lot of other children belonging to Benjamin and Tirzah
Marriages in Danehill
Entry No 112
3rd March 1877, Caroline Newnham and George Browning
other marriages around the same time that might be of interest from the Danehill Register include
No 98 - 4th Apr 1874, Benjamin Newnham to Susan Elizabeth Lucas
No 117 - 20th Oct 1877, John Robert Newnham to Eliza Tomsett
No 127 - 9th June 1879, Benjamin Newnham to Mercy Funnell
No 159 - 16th May 1885, Richard Newnham to Charlotte Brown
No 190 - 8th Feb 1890, George Newnham to Ann Marten
No 199 - 10th Feb 1891, Henry Newnham to Beatrice Pollard
No 202 - 10th Feb 1892, Benjamin Newnham to Mary Crombie
No 222 - 21st Jan 1894, Richard Newnham to Charlotte Brown
No 228 - 14th Apr 1894, Thomas Newnham to Adela Weller
Hope the above is of help to you
Chris in 1066
Many Thanks for the above info. I am currently looking into some of the names to see if they could be linked to my tree. Going back another generation opens so many doors of enquiry its hard to keep track of them all!!
Thanks,
Kim
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Muvva
Hi Chris
Thomas 16th Sept 1833
Elizabeth 1st Feb 1805
Hannah 18th Feb 1807
Ruth 1st Mar 1813
3rd March 1834 marriage details correct - Richard Habens and Elizabeth Kemp
Marriage of Thomas Kemp to Elizabeth Blackman is 5th October 1835 - both of this parish
Baptisms
Nov 19th 1809, Thomas Kemp, son of Mary
Jan 7th 1810, John (aged 2 years 6 months) Kemp, son of Mary
Hope this has not confused you
Chris in 1066
Hi Chris,
sorry for the delay in replying but I've been away on my hols. Now I see that you are away on your own holidays, so I hope you find this on your return!
Thankyou so much for taking the time to do this lookup for me. Although I was hoping that the information I had for the birthdate of Thomas Kemp was wrong... your findings have shown that he could not possinbly have been the Thomas that married in 1835. At least I can cross that one off my list!
Many thanks Chris, your help is much appreciated
Chris
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Hi Chris,
The following request is from your last visit, you needed to request the papers to be supplied to the office about 10 days in advance if I recall correctly, as they are kept off site, any chance of it this time?
'Archive of Burtenshaw and Son of Hailsham, Auctioneers and Valuers'
Catalogue Ref : BUR
Administrative Records
Auction and valuation books - ref. BUR/2/1
File- Auction Book -ref. BUR/2/1/10 date Nov 1850-Sep 1851
page 211. Berwick: farming live and dead stock (Stace) 1851
also
in the same catalogue
File - Auction book- ref BUR2/1/19 date Dec 1852 Jun 1853
p116. Berwick, blacksmith's shop: house, wheelwright's and blacksmith's shops (late White) 1853
I would dearly like to know any details that you maybe able to copy down if it is not too time consuming. The second reference about the wheelwright's interests me as John Stace was a wheelwright in Berwick before coming out to NZ, (he may have sold out to White,)but I hoped it might have a description of the house or shop, I don't imagine Berwick was big enough to have two wheelwright establishments!!
I do appreciate your time and willingness to help.
Best regards,
kiwi.