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Title: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 02 December 13 09:57 GMT (UK)
Trying to find marriage and death of the above and his wife Maria, and her maiden name.
They were together in 1881 at St Anne Soho and 1891 at St Marylebone, and,  by 1891 had 2 children.
Looks like the 2 children, Thomas and Daisy were orphaned by 1901 as they both appear as Heally at St Marylebone schools at Southall.
Cr
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 02 December 13 10:27 GMT (UK)
Hi

? These ?

Death Mar 1900 Marylebone 1a 462 - Maria Healy (46y)

Death Mar 1900 Kensington  1a 81 - Thomas Healy (45y)
   

Ray
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: lizdb on Monday 02 December 13 11:01 GMT (UK)
The children were christened at St Mary's, Marylebone

Daisy Maria on 1 Dec 1889 parents Thomas and Maria of 24 Sycamore Place,  bn 21 Oct 1889

And

Thomas Edward on 7 Jul 1889, same details, bn 17 May 1887

Father a boot maker
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: lizdb on Monday 02 December 13 11:03 GMT (UK)
There is also the chr of a Cissy Flora on 7 Aug 1892 bn 21 Jan 1891
Same detials except address is 13 Sycamore place


And a Henry Healey, chr 5 Jun 1895, bn 20 Jan 1895, same details except address is 66 Seymour place
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: lizdb on Monday 02 December 13 11:11 GMT (UK)
This could well be their marriage?

26 Dec 1882
Emmanuel Church, Camberwell

Thomas Healey 26 bachelor, bootmaker, 180 Camberwell Rd, father John Healey bootmaker
To
Maria Paul 24 spinster same address father David Paul bootmaker
Both signed
Witnesses William Grace, Mary Ann Clawson
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: lizdb on Monday 02 December 13 11:24 GMT (UK)
There is a Cissy Healey, and alsoa May Healey, with Thomas and Daisy at the school in 1901
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Bookbox on Monday 02 December 13 11:37 GMT (UK)
Death Mar 1900 Kensington  1a 81 - Thomas Healy (45y)

The Register of Deaths for St Marylebone Infirmary shows him as Thomas HEALLEY, died 8 January 1900, aged 45.
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 02 December 13 11:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you all.
The finding of Cissy is great as I'd thought her sister, Daisy had emigrated to Canada and it appears that she did as she was a witness at Cissy's wedding in 1917 in Toronto.
Once again you're all wonderful researchers and have helped me a lot.
Cr
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: lizdb on Monday 02 December 13 11:56 GMT (UK)
Heres the birth for May, but I cant spot a chr for her to confirm (or otherwise) if sheis another sister

Jul/Aug/Sep 1893
Marylebone ref 1a  561
May Dinah HEALEY
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 02 December 13 12:17 GMT (UK)
I can't find the baptism of Henry Healey 1895 on Ancestry-is it under the correct spelling, Liz?
Cr
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Bookbox on Monday 02 December 13 12:39 GMT (UK)
Looks like the 2 children, Thomas and Daisy were orphaned by 1901 as they both appear as Heally at St Marylebone schools at Southall.

The admission/discharge register for the school at Southall shows that the children Thomas, Cissy and Daisy were admitted in January 1900.

Both parents are recorded as dead, the father having died in the Infirmary. Their grandmother was Eliza PAUL, 21 Wakefield Street, Grays Inn Road.

Thomas HEALLY, aged 12, date of birth given as 17 May 1887, was admitted on 12 Jan 1900. He was discharged on 20 September 1902 to the 5th Northumberland Fusiliers, but returned to the school 2 days later on 22 Sep 1902 'from enlistment at St George's Barracks'. Then sent on 29 Jan 1903 to Mr D. R. Evans, Ellesmere College, Salop.

Cissy HEALLY, aged 8, was admitted on 20 Jan 1900, no date of birth. She was discharged on 16 Feb 1907 to Mrs Wickers, 'Bolingbroke', Uxbridge Road, Ealing (perhaps into domestic service?).

Daisy HEALLY, aged 10, was also admitted on 20 Jan 1900. She was discharged on 13 July 1904 to 'Notting Hill Infirmary' (the Marylebone Union Infirmary).

There will probably be more school admissions/discharges for these children, and you may want to look for yourself (on Ancestry). The path for this particular register is: London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930 > Westminster > St Marylebone > Admission and Discharge > Admission and Discharge Registers, Southall School, 1897-1908 > image 117.

There are several other admission/discharge registers for the workhouse/infirmary and school that are online and might also be worth a look, if you have access.

For information about the children's emigration, you could have the Board of Guardians minute books searched at LMA (these are not online).
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Bookbox on Monday 02 December 13 13:12 GMT (UK)
I can't find the baptism of Henry Healey 1895 on Ancestry

Henry was baptised on 5 July 1895 at St Mary Bryanston Square, born 20 June 1895 (recorded and indexed as HEALY).

It was a private baptism, and he appears to have died shortly afterwards.

Deaths
Sep Qtr 1895
Healey    Henry    age 0   
Marylebone vol 1a page 369
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 02 December 13 13:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you Bootbox.
I'd tracked Thomas to a marriage in Ellesmere in 1907 and I think he died in Whitchurch in 1954.
Daisy became a kitchen maid at 1911 at Marylebone then emigrated to Canada in May 1911 where she witnessed Cissy's marriage in 1917 to Arthur Glendall but disappears after that.
Cissy also was a servant in 1911 at Marylebone and after her marriage in Toronto she disappears.
So you're correct about where they went after they left the school.
Cr
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Bookbox on Monday 02 December 13 13:20 GMT (UK)
Heres the birth for May, but I cant spot a chr for her to confirm (or otherwise) if sheis another sister

Jul/Aug/Sep 1893
Marylebone ref 1a  561
May Dinah HEALEY

Further to Henry's baptism (above), May Dinah was baptised on 13 July 1893 at St Mary Bryanston Square, to Thomas (boot maker) & Maria, 13 Seymour Place, born 26 May 1893. Recorded as HEALEY but indexed as HENLEY.
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 02 December 13 13:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Bookbox, You're finding all these quicker than I can put the details on my tree!
Well done, great job.
Cr
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Bookbox on Monday 02 December 13 13:31 GMT (UK)
I think you'll find May in domestic service in Hornsey in the last available census. Not sure what happened after that ...
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Suttoner1 on Friday 25 April 14 18:26 BST (UK)
My Great Grandfather was Thomas Healey, born 1887,  London Marylebone, died 1930, Rainhill, Prescot, Lancashire, his father and grandfather, both boot makers as far as I know.
Thomas ended up marrying Elizabeth Ann Salmon, who was from Audley in Staffordshire, the marriage took place in Ellesmere, Shropshire in 1907, they had 4 children -
Colin Edward Healey b.1907, d.1985,
Thomas E Healey b 1908 , d, 1991,
Daisy Elizabeth Healey b 1910 , d, 1989 - my grandmother
Wiliam H Healey b 1914 , d, 1966.
I hope this is of some help, I'm also on Genes Reunited if you wish to look at this tree, your welcome to put a request in.  ;D
Title: Re: Thomas Healey b1856 St Martins in the Fields.
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Saturday 26 April 14 08:16 BST (UK)
Hi Suttoner1,
That's very interesting I knew that he'd had 3 children but not the 4th, also thought he died in Salop in 1955. However I've put a request in to GR to see your tree.
Thank You,
Cr