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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: donut on Thursday 21 November 13 18:42 GMT (UK)
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This is a very elusive gentleman. I believe he was born on 4th April 1904, though his birth was not registered until May 1905. He had a brother William Derek and a sister Irene and a sister Colina.No other member of the family has the name Davenport.
I believe his father's name was William and his mother may have been Sarah Annie Sherlock.
Family history relates he was raised by an aunt. I can find no mention for him or his family in 1911 UK Census and the family believe he travelled to the US at some time in his life.
Would be grateful if anyone could tell me if the family was in the US at the time of the 1911 Census.
Many thanks for any help.
Kind regards tunod
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A 1947 passenger list for Alan Davenport Frost from Southampton to New York has his last permanent residence as Weybridge, England and says he was previously in the US in 1936.
The English death index lists his death date as Dec. 1974
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A possible match for him on a 1936 passenger list says he lived in London and was never in the US before.
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1SD-DVL
- Brazil immigration record gives him as 4 April 1905 - which fits with a birth registered in May (within six weeks of birth) - and gives his parents as William and Margaret(?).
Alan Davenport Frost registered Chorlton June quarter 1905.
William Derek Frost registered Salford Mar quarter 1908
No obvious hits for Colina (nickname?) and too many possibles for Irene. Alan's birth certificate would confirm his mother's maiden name - it's possible there was both a Sarah and a Margaret - possibly one is his mother and the other is the aunt who raised him?
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Just to clarify things, do you mean that Alan Davenport Frost arrived in Brazil in 1905 with his parents or that at some time in his life he told Brazil immigration that his birth was 1905 and that his parents were named William and Margaret?. If the latter could you tell me when he was in Brazil.
Many thanks for your help
Tunod
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The familysearch link in my last post is to a Brazil immigration record from 1963 - if you click through you can see the original. It's something like a landing card - it has a photo of him, details of his passport, etc.
On it, his parents are listed as "William & Margaret Frost" and his birth as 4.4.1905 in Withington. Since the birth date would have come from his passport it should be right - the parents' names I presume he supplied to immigration so would be correct as far as Alan himself was aware.
It appears to be a temporary visit, possibly a business trip.
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Here are the baptisms of two children:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Worsley/stmark/baptisms_1904-1913.html
Margaret Ivy Frost, 1906 - parents William Frost & Sarah Annie of Beech Villa Timperley - he was a mechanical engineer
William Derek Frost, 1908 - parents William Frost and Sarah of 10 Granville Road Pendleton - father "Inspecting Engineer".
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Worsley/stmark/marriages_1885-1903.html
- fits this this 1902 marriage in the same church between William Frost, 25 ,an engineer of Pimlico, and Sarah Annie, a 20 year old schoolteacher.
There is a Sarah A. Frost death in Barton Irwell district in 1913 - aged 31. This would explain why Alan was raised by an aunt - either on the Sherlock or Frost side - the kids may have ended up divided among relatives.
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1SD-DVL
- Brazil immigration record gives him as 4 April 1905 - which fits with a birth registered in May (within six weeks of birth)
Hello i wondered if you still have access to this record I tried the link but it is not working for me possibly it is for members of one of the ancestry websites as it reads that the record is kept private to respect their partners.
I am looking for information and especially a picture on an Alan Frost who was the possible father of my late wife and grandfather to my children. We have taken dna and been researching many years but still not much information has appeared. We do have a couple of pictures of him so if we find a picture of Alan Davenport Frost we can either celebrate or rule him out. We do have some DNA matches in Rio so that is something.
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(https://sites-cf.mhcache.com/e/1/az1zaXRlc192MSZzPTZjN2FjM2RkMDJiZjI2MWJkZjQ2ODRmMWRjZGVkZTVmZTJlZTVkYTRkMGEyZjgyZTZiNTQ4MTRiZTcxNjgwMmUmZT0xNzYzMzkxNjAw/058/199/2081/500004_33691215m85i58101i68rc_A.jpg)
Hopefully this picture comes out ok it is one we have of Alan Frost taken in 1958 in Canada Toronto
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1SD-DVL
- Brazil immigration record gives him as 4 April 1905 - which fits with a birth registered in May (within six weeks of birth)
Hello i wondered if you still have access to this record I tried the link but it is not working for me possibly it is for members of one of the ancestry websites as it reads that the record is kept private to respect their partners.
I believe that means that Familysearch's contract with the original record holder might only have allowed them to display the images for a certain period of time and that time expired between 2013 and now.
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the index record at ancestry gives his birth date as mentioned. he arrived 1963 in Rio de Janeiro. parents William Frost, Margaret Frost.
in the Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Immigration Cards, 1900-1965
FHL Film Number 004921080
I found this at familysearch while trying to access the record by browsing:
Image Restricted
Image access is typically determined by local laws or the custodian who has the original document.
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Thanks, that is a real shame as a picture would have been the best way for me to have either ruled it out or in.