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Title: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: ann1939 on Wednesday 20 November 13 13:59 GMT (UK)
Hello.. I have posted an interest in Charles Henry Smith cattle dealer of Gtknollys street Reading. before but with new Members am trying again.
He was my Grandfather, he married Ada Andrews of East Hagbourne Berkshire 1889 coming to Reading from that date. I have a good History of his life in Reading from that date until his death 1929 but WHO ? are his parents. marriage certificate shows only East Hagbourne. his fathers name Charles labourer. any help much appreciated
Ann Orwin (nee Smith )
Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 20 November 13 14:05 GMT (UK)
When and where did he say he was born on 1901 and 1911 censuses?
Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: ann1939 on Wednesday 20 November 13 14:23 GMT (UK)
well this is the problem I have 1891 said Bristol then 1901/1911 Berkshire ??  in 1889 when he married he was 23 but in 1929 when he died he was 69 with the name Smith ???? and no address he lived at his marriage cant seem to get my head round it. I keep bypassing him and gather more family history on his Wife hoping I may bump into someone who knew him .
Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: Kimbrey on Wednesday 20 November 13 14:24 GMT (UK)
From the transcribed Hagbourne P/Rs

Marriage 13 January 1889 at Hagbourne
Henry Charles SMITH  23  b  dealer  Hagbourne  father Charles Smith  lab
Ada ANDREWS  20  Hagbourne  father Joseph Andrews  carpenter
Wit=Willie Mills/Edith Mills

I cannot see a baptism for Henry Charles at Hagbourne but this would seem to be Ada's

20 Mar 1868-Ada ANDREWS d Joseph & Elizabeth  gardener

Kim
Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 20 November 13 14:36 GMT (UK)
So, called Henry Charles at marriage, and born around 1866 if age at marriage correct
Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 20 November 13 14:39 GMT (UK)
Henry Charles in 1891 too

RG 12 992 70 25

Pob Bristol

Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: ann1939 on Wednesday 20 November 13 14:48 GMT (UK)
same road I have been on ???? he has got to be out there somewere. in Reading he was always a cattle dealer and lived in 2 homes in Gt Knollys street one home still there no 31 he died fairly rich owning several houses which were sold. and monies devided between his Widow and children his Widow bought a house in De montford road Reading and is were I was born. I so want to find who and were he was born and his parents ?????? Thankyou for your help . any more info on him from 1889 willing to share
Ann
Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 20 November 13 14:55 GMT (UK)
Yes, he's got to be out there somewhere.

But I dont see how we will ever pinpoint which is him. With a name like Smith, interchangeable Christian names between Charles and Henry, a variable date of birth and a variable place of birth, we will never be sure which of the many many possibles there must be in earlier censuses will be the right person.

Any more rellies mentioned in his Will? Siblings? Nieces or nephews?
Title: Re: Charles Henry Smith
Post by: Sloe Gin on Wednesday 20 November 13 20:42 GMT (UK)
What age is given in the censuses?

If he was 69 in 1929 that suggests he was born c1860 which would make him 28 in January 1889 (unless his birthday was before 13 Jan).  Just thinking that 23 and 28 can be easily confused when transcribing if the original is faint or in careless writing.