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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Star_boy123 on Tuesday 19 November 13 19:07 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am looking for information on Clifford Mace, He lived in the Armley area of Leeds and was born in 1897, I know that his father was called John and his mother was called Elizabeth, I know he served in World War One, but I would like to know more, As he died in 1970 I would particularly like to speak to someone who may have met him.
Hope that anyone can help me.
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Hi Star_boy123 :)
Just to give some background....I am sure you have this already for sure! But it will help people trying to connect or add further info. This is Clifford in 1901:
John B Mace 37, xxx labourer, b. Board ship bound for India
Elizabeth Mace 40 b. Birstall, Yorkshire...Barker for maiden name?
Herbert Mace 11 b. Leeds
Clifford Mace 3 b. Leeds
RG13/4209/21/7
A likely entry for father John, with his family, in 1881 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQFH-YTM And at Aldershot for 1871 - ref RG10/818/129/10. Regiment reference given as 33rd Regiment of Foot. Wife/mother showing here as Catherine (not Charlotte) b. Fermoy Ireland c. 1846.
Thought this might connect for John and Catherine's marriage https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ7-HM3
Thought this birth might also be relevant:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGH5-F8J
Would guess, because you mention it, that you may have seen his WW1 service papers? 27 pages available to view for the record with the Bn West Yorkshire Regt. as main reference.
Was Clifford a postman in later years? www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/33993/pages/7206/page.pdf
Monica
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Thanks for this. I know nothing about Clifford's later life.
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Just to give some background....I am sure you have this already for sure! But it will help people trying to connect or add further info. This is Clifford in 1901:
John B Mace 37, xxx labourer, b. Board ship bound for India
Elizabeth Mace 40 b. Birstall, Yorkshire...Barker for maiden name?
Herbert Mace 11 b. Leeds
Clifford Mace 3 b. Leeds
RG13/4209/21/7
9 Feb 1889 Parish of New Wortley
John Mace 24 Plate layer f John same occ. married Elizabeth Barker f John Maltster
both single, both signed, witnesses Thomas Barker & Fanney Windross
bapt St Bartholomew Armley 22 Jan 1889 parents John occ Platelayer & Elizabeth
Albert & Leonard Mace born 29 Nov 1892
didn't see a baptism for Herbert or Clifford ???
he died in 1970
Clifford Mace age 72 born 24 Mar 1898
Date of Registration: Sep 1970 Leeds Volume: 2c Page: 1042
Possible marriage/s
Clifford Mace married 1923 Bramley E Olivant
Birth 1923 Leeds E Mace (male) mmn Olivant
married 1958 Leeds K M Elvidge
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Hi,
Possible birth and death for Elsie,
Elsie OLIVANT Dec Q 1893 Leeds 9b 536
Elsie MACE Mar 1958 Leeds 2c 522
Age: 64
Also looking at the 1923 birth it looks like the child could have died very young,
Death
Eric MACE Mar 1925 Bramley 9b 368
Age: 1
Regards,
Daisy
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Possibly your Clifford in 1933,
British Postal Service Appointment Books, 1737-1969
Date: Sep 1933
Registered number of nomination paper: 71014
MACE Clifford
Situation to which nominated: P'man
Place: Leeds
Minute Number: A10831
Daisy
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Hi,
Burials in Armley Cemetery, Leeds.
Elsie Mace (64) Housewife of 8 Greenthorpe Mount, Bramley, buried 8/2/1958 consecrated grave A655.
Also buried in this grave:- John Mace (56) buried 13/3/1920
Eric Mace (16mths) buried 17/1/1925
Elizabeth Mace (79) Widow of 13 Greenthorpe Walk, Bramley, buried 6/6/1939
There is also a William Marshall Mace (81) Labourer, buried 10/4/1934 consecrated grave A1047A. There are 7 unrelated others in this grave.
Haven't found Clifford yet.
Ian
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I presume you have seen his military record on Ancestry ?
He served with the 3rd Bn West Yorks in England but was discharged as physically unfit for service in 1915. Reason seems to be myopia. The 3rd Bn were at Whitley Bay as part of the Tyne Garrison.
The records though do contain some good personal information.
Mick.
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Thank you so much for your help everyone. A lot of information I didn't already have :)
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I was born in Armley but cant remember any people going to school with me called Mace.
I do know where they lived. The cemetery they are buried in is just around the corner
from where they lived at Greenhill.
If Clifford continued to be a Postman when he came back to Leeds in later life then
he would have probably known my late Dad who also worked at the Post office in Leeds.
The main sorting and delivery office was in the centre of Leeds just off of City Square.
Some of my family are also buried in the same cemetery and I wrote to Leeds City
Councils cemetery department and they found my Gran and Grandad. If you know
his age and date of death which is September 1970 aged 72 then they will give you
the grave number if he has been buried there.
Hope you find what you are looking for
regards Sandymc