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Title: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: RCB on Monday 11 November 13 14:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Karen - I wonder if you could check census? for a nurse Kate Carr who was born in 1883 in England.  Her brothers and sisters seemed to have visited her, there are border crossings and Kate's name and Montreal as the address. 
She sailed to Quebec June 1913, it looks like it says Montreal Royal?  was that a hospital?
She also crossed into the US in 1914 to visit relations (Rouses Point)
I don't think she married? or she married late.
family visited her in 1924 and later I believe, I'll check that out again.
Anything would be a plus.  cheers Fred
Address 1924 - 376 Mountain Street, Montreal.
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: chinakay on Tuesday 12 November 13 16:59 GMT (UK)
Can't even find the immigration record, what's she listed as?

There's a Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal, about 5 blocks from Mountain. It's now part of McGill University and likely was then as well.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: RCB on Wednesday 13 November 13 00:37 GMT (UK)
Always Kate Carr in the detail I have, so she was still Kate Carr when her younger brother visited her in 1924 in Montreal, so not married and aged 41 then.  Maybe she crossed into the US to work?  Maybe she married.  Maybe something will show up in time.  Thanks for your time. Fred
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: sami on Wednesday 13 November 13 01:50 GMT (UK)
Can't even find the immigration record, what's she listed as?

Kate Carr, Nurse, age 30 bound for Montreal. Departed on the Royal Edward from Bristol on 3 June 1913. Arrived Montreal 11 June 1913.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wul/

sami
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 13 November 13 06:30 GMT (UK)
Ah. Thanks sami, I searched and searched. Ancestry doesn't have it.

Still not seeing the "Royal", though, so there has to be another record somewhere.

Not a trace in 1921, or Drouin, or US censuses :(

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: sami on Wednesday 13 November 13 06:43 GMT (UK)
Still not seeing the "Royal", though, so there has to be another record somewhere.

I've seen the passenger list on FindMyPast and it just gives the destination as Montreal. The only 'Royal' I see is in the ship's name.

Have also looked in 1921 - tried all sorts of variations but didn't get anywhere.

sami
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: sami on Wednesday 13 November 13 06:50 GMT (UK)
This is an odd entry and the age is off but it did make me wonder if it was Kate:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wup/

sami

**** Should have mentioned the name is transcribed as 'Cather'
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 13 November 13 17:31 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find any Carr, Cather or even Carter on St-Famille in the Lovell's directory. Even if she was just rooming she should be there.

And Lovell's has just quit on me. Nothing but blank pages >:(
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: sami on Wednesday 13 November 13 17:42 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find any Carr, Cather or even Carter on St-Famille in the Lovell's directory. Even if she was just rooming she should be there.

And Lovell's has just quit on me. Nothing but blank pages >:(

Before Lovell's quit - were any of the other nurses listed on the 1921 census also listed at 33 St-Famille?
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 13 November 13 22:19 GMT (UK)
It's back now. Nobody but a Miss M Redshaw at 33 St Famille. And she doesn't show on the census page.

I've never seen such awful name transcription as they've got in the 1921. Of course, this handwriting isn't much help :(
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 13 November 13 22:26 GMT (UK)
Ste-Famille is much closer to the Hotel-Dieu hospital than to the Royal Vic. Directly across the road, in fact.
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: sami on Wednesday 13 November 13 23:33 GMT (UK)
I've never seen such awful name transcription as they've got in the 1921. Of course, this handwriting isn't much help :(

I blame the government issued pens  ;D
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 14 November 13 00:09 GMT (UK)
Well. In 1924 when Kate gives her address as 376 Mountain...Lovell's gives C.B.Keenan, MD at that address. In fact, this Dr Keenan:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wvd/

Most interesting! A trio of doctors were granted a leave of absence from the Royal Victoria Hospital to join the Canadian Expeditionary Force during WWI:
Major C. B. Keenan D.S.O.
Francis A C Scrimger, V.C.
Lt Col John McCrae

You know who John McCrae is, don't you?

    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row...

Anyway, Kate was evidently living with Dr and Mrs Keenan in 1924.
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: sami on Thursday 14 November 13 00:40 GMT (UK)
You know who John McCrae is, don't you?

    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row...
Anyway, Kate was evidently living with Dr and Mrs Keenan in 1924.

Amazing!

The Keenan's were also at 376 Mountain on the 1921 Census. No Kate at that time though.
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 14 November 13 01:05 GMT (UK)
Nope. Not that you'd ever know it...Dr Keenan's wife's name is transcribed as Ketnam.

The building numbers seem to have changed...current mapping shows 376 down near the Irish slums of Griffintown. I don't think so!

Mountain and all the streets from McGill westward were very nice addresses indeed. Lots of doctors on the 1921 census page.
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: RCB on Thursday 18 June 20 16:40 BST (UK)
Hey you carried on looking for my Kate Carr after I thought the thread had died ::), the findings you unearthed all make sense and the only thing I can add is a nurse Kate Carr of the right age was on board a Canadian troop ship in 1918.  Thanks for your efforts, Rootschat is a great aid to anyone researching family.  Fred
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: polarbear on Thursday 18 June 20 22:02 BST (UK)
Hello RCB....

This link is to the WW1 Army Medical Service record of the Kate you just posted the troop ship record for....same Montreal address is on both records. Several pages in she gives her father as a Christopher George Carr if I'm reading it correctly. This, and other info therein, should help you determine whether this is your Kate.

There are 51 pages altogether and it will be very slow to download.

Courstesy of Library and Archives Canada....

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B1514-S029

PB
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: eileenwilson on Sunday 21 June 20 11:28 BST (UK)
Montreal Gazette, December 1, 1919: The engagement is announced of Miss Kate Carr of the Prince of Wales Hospital, formerly of the University Settlement, to Mr. Walter Adams, of Swift Current, Saskatchewan. The marriage will take place on Saturday evening at the residence of Dr. & Mrs. C.B. Keenan, 376 Mountain Street.
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: eileenwilson on Sunday 21 June 20 11:36 BST (UK)
Further to my last post, another article about the wedding says they will make their home in Swift Current. It also says Capt. Fred Carr, MC, RCAF, will be best man.
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: eileenwilson on Sunday 21 June 20 11:44 BST (UK)
1926 Census in Swift Current shows Kate and Walter with children Walter aged 5 and Winnifred aged 4, both born in Saskatchewan.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=census1926&op=img&id=e011249248
Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: eileenwilson on Sunday 21 June 20 12:03 BST (UK)
I find Mr. & Mrs. Walter Adams in Dunelm which is in the Swift Current electoral district in the 1935 Voters' Lists.  Reference to them in the local history book show Mrs. Walter Adams as the President of the local Victoria Order of Nurses:

https://cdm22007.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p22007coll8/id/1245960/rec/2

And the story of their lives:

https://cdm22007.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p22007coll8/id/1245980/rec/2

They left Saskatchewan in 1937 and moved to Vancouver.  Kate died in 1967 aged 84 and Walter in 1971 aged 88.

Title: Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
Post by: eileenwilson on Sunday 21 June 20 12:06 BST (UK)
Kate's death certificate (occurred actually in August 1966):

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/04e06962-4c72-444f-a1d0-384faf04114d