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Title: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: James2you on Monday 04 November 13 16:49 GMT (UK)

Hi, help needed please with the above, I was given a spouse some time ago for her but not a marriage date, if the notes & records are correct she wed a Joseph Forshaw and stayed in the Prescot area. The last Anc.... record of 1911 she was a servant in a house.
Can any one put me right ? if she wed, a year, and possibly a death year.

Thanks..

John

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 04 November 13 16:56 GMT (UK)

from Lancashire BMD for 1913

FORSHAW   Joseph   
JAMES   Mary E   
Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended   
Prescot   R/91/125

 freebmd gives the reg as June quarter.

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: James2you on Monday 04 November 13 17:01 GMT (UK)

Thanks Rosie, did you come across her death year ?

Thanks again.
John

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: lancaster.jim on Monday 04 November 13 17:12 GMT (UK)

LancsBMD has no death indexes for the Prescot Registration District yet.  FreeBMD might help

The marriage is noted as a "Registrar or Registrar Attended" marriage.  It is likely that by this time a "Registrar or Registrar Attended" marriage was either in the Register Office or in an RC church as many Non-Conformist (Mewthodist, etc.) chapels had an Authorised Person appointed to act for the Registrar

Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs)

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: James2you on Monday 04 November 13 17:17 GMT (UK)

Thanks Jim...

John

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: marrle on Monday 04 November 13 18:02 GMT (UK)

John,

They were married 28.6.1913.
St.Marys Lowe House RC Church.
St.Helens
Lancs

This could be the burial dates:

St.Helens Cemetery. (Deceased Search) free to view on line.

Joseph Forshaw Burial date 3.12.1934 age 47.
Mary Elizabeth 4.5.1970 age 76.

Also in the same grave:
Mary 5.8.1948 age 63.

Grave Number 23/124.

Margie

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: James2you on Monday 04 November 13 21:29 GMT (UK)

Hello Margie, thanks for the help, can you do look ups in Widnes ?


Thanks again

John

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: marrle on Tuesday 05 November 13 09:26 GMT (UK)

John,

What records are you looking for in Widnes, dates and names please.

Thanks Margie

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: James2you on Tuesday 05 November 13 10:24 GMT (UK)

Her marriage, family & death records

Thanks

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: marrle on Tuesday 05 November 13 10:29 GMT (UK)

John,
Are those not the ones I gave you above.
Margie

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: James2you on Tuesday 05 November 13 10:48 GMT (UK)

sorry about that, thanks again..
I will have another look & get back to you.

John

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 05 November 13 10:55 GMT (UK)

Though the marriage cert will give you proof,this is a very likely candidate for Mary E James in the 1891 Census in Widnes-RG12/3010/97/42.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: jangeo on Wednesday 06 November 13 19:02 GMT (UK)

Hello James2you

There are two deaths recorded for Widnes Cemetary,

1/ Mary E Forshaw, died 29 January 1928, aged 75
2/ Joseph Forshaw. died 23 December 1923,aged 83
Grave location 6U, If I recall this is a communal grave so there will be no headstone.

Both resided at 14 Elliot Street,Widnes.

Hope this helps.

Regards
GeoffW

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: James2you on Wednesday 06 November 13 20:39 GMT (UK)

Thanks Geoffw for all your help.

John

Title: Re: Mary E James 1890 Widnes (Prescot)
Post by: tex t on Thursday 14 November 13 17:56 GMT (UK)

I don't know if this is relevant to your query, but there were Forshaws living at 14 Elliott Street Widnes until at least the 1960's.  I was born next door at No. 12 in 1950, and I was there until 1973. Unfortunately I was not interested in family history in my younger days, so all I can remember about the occupants is that they were two brothers. I am not very good at guessing ages but I seem to recall that they appeared to be as old as my parents, so that would put them as being born in the 1910's. Widnes Library has the electoral registers from the 1930's onwards so you would be able to get their names from that source.