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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: Marianne Isaacs on Thursday 31 October 13 12:37 GMT (UK)
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Hello I am a 4th granddaughter of Mark who was the perpetual curate of St marks ( church of Ireland ) until 1835 when he died at 61 . I have basic information about him but am wondering if there is more to find out there . He actually is responsible for the building of St Marks . He also was an agent for the Londonderry family . My dream is to find a portrait of him . He had 8 children , his son Frederick is my forbear . Frederick came to New Zealand with his wife Martha Brown in about 1870. They also had a large family Frederick is described as a gentleman and doesn't appear to have ever worked although he was apparently also a reverend . . His wife, Martha was a maid presumably in his parents home and about 12years younger than Frederick when they married . I suspect they were encouraged to leave Ireland as the marriage would definitely not been condoned by Fredericks family . Does this story ring any bells . Any information would be great !!
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The National Library of Ireland has
"About 130 documents relating to the activities of Rev. Mark Cassidy, curate of Newtownards, as an advisory agent for the Marquis of Londonderry's estates in Co. Down, including references to the charity schools at Newtownards and Comber and elections, local politics, etc., 1810-39."
http://sources.nli.ie/Record/MS_UR_018589
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Would be worth contacting the church to see if they know of any portrait- might have a plaque in the church or gravestone that could be photographed if nothing else.
http://www.stmarksnewtownards.co.uk/index.html
Meanwhile, there is this memorial window-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beechgarave/7986612930/
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Have you seen this site
http://www.derek-beattie.comxa.com/family-cassidy.htm
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Hi,
Also see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/C/CasCaw.htm
Regards
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Thank you all for your input . I was aware of the window and other information . I haven't been able to access the PRONI papers as I am in Australia . I might contact them and see whether there is a way of reading these :)
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Hi Marianne - distant cousin. I am Geoffrey Darling and also am descended from Frederick -my grandfather Fred Darling's grandfather. I can tell you lots and am trying to get it altogether for a visit to Ireland for the 200th anniversary of St Mark's Newtownards - where I have been before (2011)
and saw the Cassidy window
I am attaching a lot of stuff, including the start of my yarn about my great-grandmother Alice - -
I would love to find out if their migration to NZ was part of the Vogel immigration scheme to redress the balance of men and women in the new colony.
I had to put this in .txt which is the format this site handles - hope you can convert it
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Hello Geoffrey , I don't know when you posted this but I haven't had a look on Roots chat for a while . Lovely to hear from you .I live in Melbourne . It's great to read your research . I have some interesting stuff to add regarding Marks younger brother Francis who fought at Waterloo.his children emigrated to Melbourne , the daughter marrying Samuel Lazarus who ended up being the foreman of the jury at Ned Kelly's trial . Being a New Zealander maybe that doesn't mean much to you ? I don't seem to be able to contact you except on Roots chat . Are you on Facebook ? I am . I would love to know more about the Cassidis in the Uk . A friend of mine visited the house in Magherafelt where it was bought by a property developer and restored . anyway if you want to talk more that would be great . Marianne
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Hi Marianne - I see I need to post three times before I can PM - and I checked your name on Facebook - so many to chose from >:(- I can get round this I think by putting in another couple of posts - that might do it - anyway I have enclosed a photo of a family tree that mentions Frederick's military brother, who appears to have inherited the estate. We drove past when in Magherafelt (still cant pronounce it like the locals) but could just see fabulous and forbidding high walls. Fascinating about the Ned Kelly link - " such is life" - I'll post again and that might throw open the PM switch- cheers
PS - it was the pic file was too large max 500 whatsits
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But it can put the family tree photo on an email attachment to you when I can contact you by PM ( I presume that is personal message) - after this third post.
We took pictures of Mark's grave when in Ireland . That was one of the most rewarding experiences of my life, acting Mark's Gospel in the church great-great-great granddad Mark built. As I told the congregation, if felt more like being home than I ever thought a fourth-generation Kiwi could imagine. Wonderful welcome on the bicentennial year. Thanks for the news about Francis - at Waterloo no less! - and he was also in the Indian Mutiny according to this family tree photo
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Marianne,
Succession lists of the Diocese of Dromore, by Henry B. Swanzy, Dean of Dromore, and edited by Canon J.B. Leslie (Carswell, Belfast 1933, price 7s. 6d.) has this entry for Frederick under curates of Dromara:
4th son of the Rev. Mark Cassidy, Chancellor of Kilfenora and Rector of Newtownards; born Down; T.C.D. 18 Oct. 1830 aged 17 BA 1838; Vicar of Grindon, Durham; died unm. 27 Aug. 1882.
Something doesn't figure there! Burke's Irish Family Records says Frederick d. 4 Sep. 1890 (no further details) and it was his younger brother William who was vicar of Grindon and d. in 1882.
Have you tried Alumni Dublinenses? See whether it's available as a Google Book or on the Mormon web site.
There's a long entry for Mark in the succession lists for the diocese of Down.
Too much to transcribe, but if you like to send me a P.M. with your eMail address I could scan it for you.
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Hello Geoffrey . How amazing to be there for the 200 th anniversary and be doing your reading . That's very special. I would love to see some portraits of these people but I guess if any were ever painted they have long been lost . I do have a photo of Annie Cassidy who was Frederick and Martha's oldest child and my great great grandmother . Francis Cassidy was Marks younger brother but didn't seem to measure up . He seems to have been a rather troubled person because he ended up in London destitute after coming out of the army .He tried to set up school but there was too much competition and it failed . After requests from a friend to Mark , Mark got him a clerical job with the Marquis of Londonderry . He died in London before his children emigrated to Australia . I don't think he and Mark got on at all . Probably another black sheep!
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Hello Wee Hugh , thanks for that , yes it's actually a wrong entry . It's caused quite a bit of confusion and has effectively written Frederick out of the picture .
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Hi Marianne - distant cousin. I am Geoffrey Darling and also am descended from Frederick -my grandfather Fred Darling's grandfather. I can tell you lots and am trying to get it altogether for a visit to Ireland for the 200th anniversary of St Mark's Newtownards - where I have been before (2011)
and saw the Cassidy window
I am attaching a lot of stuff, including the start of my yarn about my great-grandmother Alice - -
I would love to find out if their migration to NZ was part of the Vogel immigration scheme to redress the balance of men and women in the new colony.
I had to put this in .txt which is the format this site handles - hope you can convert it
Hello Geoffrey, here I am back on rootschat and I decided to find myself on Facebook and realised that I am listed as being in London which was true at the time but not now . My picture is a rather warped picture which my son took (haha) so you should be able to find me .just make sure you look for Isaacs rather than Isaac
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