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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Surrey => Topic started by: Mainmanjim on Sunday 27 October 13 23:53 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I'm looking for the roots of Alexander Sinclair, a tailor who lived at Pump Street and Church Square, Rye, Sussex. He was born in Scotland circa 1804 and had six children, whom I can trace, by Caroline Christmas who was born in 1806 in Rye. They were married in 1827.
I think he was the third son of Alexander Sinclair and Agnes Davidson of Leslie, Fife. Can anyone confirm this? :-\ He seems to have disappeared off the face of Scotland. As far as I can tell, no marriage, death or census records show him there.
Any clue, please?
Jim
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Do you have him in the 1861 census with his wife and family at Rye Essex ???
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Have you seen this in the Gazette re the dissolution of a partnership in Rye in 1827.
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/18372/pages/1352
I am wondering if that was the same Alexander Sinclair or possibly his father
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Hello, Rosie and Shaun
Thank you both for your interest. :)
Yes, Rosie, I have him on the 1861 census. He was on the 1841 at Pump Street, 1861 at 32 Church Square and 1871 at 31 Church Square.
The Gazette article is very interesting, Shaun. It's definitely the Alexander I'm looking for. His son, another Alexander John Sinclair, wasn't born until 1828 and became a millwright. The partnership appears to have been dissolved two weeks or so before Alexander's marriage to Caroline. It certainly indicates that he was resident in Rye for quite some time before that.
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Hi
There is this Ontario Canada Death Record
Alexander Sinclair
Death Date 7 Sep 1872
Death District Grey
Age 72
Est Birth Year abt 1800
Birth Island of Islay, Scotland
Informant Malcolm Sinclair
Margp
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Hi
There is this Death Record
Alexander Sinclair abt 1803
Date Jul Qtr 1879
Reg Rye Sussex
Vol 2b
Page 3
Margp
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And this one for Caroline
Caroline Sinclair abt 1807
April Qtr 1876
Reg Rye Sussex
Vol 2b:
Page 3
Margp
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Hi, Margp
I'm really grateful for the interest shown in this one.
I know that some of the clan departed for Canada, but I don't think that this Alexr S did. The one I'm looking for was born in Leslie, Fife. I'm afraid Islay is on the other side of Scotland.
However, thank you for the info on the deaths of Caroline and Alexander at Rye. I suspected that they died round about these dates because they don't show up on the 1881 census.
I wish that the English BMDs were as available as some other countries are.
Jim
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Hi
Here is confirmation on Alexander's Birth Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYVY-TR7
Margp
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Hi, Margp
I'm really grateful for the interest shown in this one.
I know that some of the clan departed for Canada, but I don't think that this Alexr S did. The one I'm looking for was born in Leslie, Fife. I'm afraid Islay is on the other side of Scotland.
However, thank you for the info on the deaths of Caroline and Alexander at Rye. I suspected that they died round about these dates because they don't show up on the 1881 census.
I wish that the English BMDs were as available as some other countries are.
Jim
Hi Jim, you can order the BMD'S from the GRO they are £9.25 and take abt 7 days to arrive
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Hi. Margp
I've got Alexander's birth details, thanks. :) I'm looking for confirmation that the man in Sussex is the one I'm after.
Why can't GRO make their records available on-line like GROscotland does? Through ScotlandsPeople it's so simple and immediate.
Regards
Jim
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Hi
Here is confirmation on Alexander's Birth Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYVY-TR7
Margp
This is the one in Sussex who married Caroline Chirstmas
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Hi Jim
Here they are in 1841 Sinclair is transcribed as Lindan all living in Rye
Alexander b Scotland 1806 Scotland occ Tailor
Caroline b 1811 Sussex
Alex John b 1829 Sussex Alex is transcribed as Alice
David William b 1835 Sussex
Charles b 1838 Sussex
Next door
Elizabeth Christmas b 1796 Sussex
Mary Jane b 1816 Sussex
Margp
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Hi Jim
It is hard to say if the parents of Alexander Sinclair b 1804 are Alexander and Agnes, as you say he does disappear from Scotland, also a couple of Alexander's b 1804 children are named after his siblings David and George I wonder if the J is James, I would have thought that Alexander would have served an Apprenticeship, if he was a Master Tailor, are there any records for that you could check, for that either in Scotland or England, as he may have left Scotland to do his Apprenticeship
Margp
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Hello, Margp
I don't know how I ended up on the Surrey board when I'm making enquiries about Sussex. Apologies all round. It must have been the fault of my typing finger. Maybe the moderator will kindly move this. I'd do an embarrassed smilie but I can' t seem to get them to work either.
However, some nice points you make, Marg. Yes, Alexander did have brothers George (elder) and David (younger). His third and youngest brother was James. I've found out that Alex's son George's middle name is James, and son Alexander's middle name is John - possibly for Caroline's father John.
Thanks for the idea about apprenticeship. I'll research that!
Jim