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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: kwangster on Wednesday 23 October 13 13:42 BST (UK)
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could any victorian rootschatters help me with a look up for children of lucy (harding) HOGAN, born around 1811 uk & died 1890 carlton victoria. children are : edwin HOGAN 1828, walter harding HOGAN 1850, annie harding HOGAN 1848, louisa harding HOGAN 1843, matilda harding HOGAN 1838 & emma harding HOGAN 1836. Her husband james t HOGAN died in n.s.w. can't find any marriages for the girls or deaths for the boys in n.s.w. wondering if they all went with her, many thanks for any help.
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Trove answered the question, matilda marion harding HOGAN married christopher TUTIN in 1964 in melbourne, disregard the above, now the search is on.
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NSW to James T and Lucy/Luce - these would be from parish records
V18362555 32A/1836 HOGAN Emma H
V1836627 20/1836 HOGAN Emma H
V18382556 32A/1838 HOGAN Matilda H
V18412557 32A/1841 HOGAN Eliza H
V18432558 32A/1843 HOGAN Louisa H
V18452559 32A/1845 HOGAN Henry H
V1848196 56/1848 HOGAN Ann M
V1850197 56/1850 HOGAN Walter H
Marriages in Victoria
HOGAN Eliza Harding born Sydney
OLIVER James Phillips born England
1870 Reg# 1052
HOGAN Emma Harding born Sydney
WEBB William born England
1877 Reg# 2491
JOHANSON Johan Peter born Sweden
HOBDAY Louisa born Sydney
1882 Reg#2025
Birth
JOHANSON Emily Lucy Ingeb
Father Johan Peter Mother Louisa Harding HOGAN
At DA RL 1885 Reg#2058
JOHANSON Lillian Christin
Father Peter Johan Mother Louisa HOGAN
At Melbourne 1887 Reg#21661
Can you type up the names of the children living and deceased on Lucy's death certificate please.
If any of the children died before civil registration commenced in NSW it is quite possible there will be no record.
Cando
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862/1882
HOGAN Walter H
BROOKER Mary Louisa
District Sydney
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wku/
Sydney Morning Herald 24 Jun 1883
Marriages
HOGAN-BROOKER.-June 14, at St. Philip's Church, Sydney, by the Rev. Robert McKeown, Walter Harding Hogan, of Sydney, to Mary Louisa, youngest daughter of the late James Brooker, Esq., of Fairy Meadow, Wollongong, New South Wales.
4789/1907
HOGAN Walter H
Father James H Mother Lucy
District Gosford
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wkt/
Sydney Morning Herald 20 Jul 1907
PROBATE COURT.
Tho following applications have been granted by the Registrar:
.........Walter Harding Hogan.
Cando
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Emma WEBB d. 20 Sep 1901 intestate, widow, Carlton. Letters of Administration to sister Louisa JOHANSON of Chillton, South Gruyere.
Relatives are sister Eliza NEWMAN, brothers Henry and Walter.
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NSW State Archives: Chemists and Druggists – Walter Harding HOGAN - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wkv/
Probate: Mary Louisa King (or Harding Or Hogan) - Date of Death 02/11/1937, Granted on 31/05/1939
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\632958
Death NSW: 20448/1937 Mary Louisa KING; Father: (BROOKER); 77 Yrs; Sydney - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wkw/
cheers :)
cupoflife
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Emma WEBB d. 20 Sep 1901 intestate, widow, Carlton. Letters of Administration to sister Louisa JOHANSON of Chillton, South Gruyere.
Relatives are sister Eliza NEWMAN, brothers Henry and Walter.
Death NSW: 15742/1915 Eliza H. NEWMAN; Father: James; Mother: Lucy; Canterbury - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wky/
Funeral notice: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15600068?
cheers :)
cupoflife
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Wills, Probate, Administration etc Victoria
Louisa JOHANSON d. 29 Jul 1922 of 22 Little Cardigan St Carlton formerly Lilydale
British by naturalisation, executors Emily Lucy Engebor EVANS, Byfield St Preston, and Marie Jane DORMAN
Naturalisation file for Johan Petter JOHANSON in 1909, has wife and three daughters, Lilydale.
Electoral Roll 1919
Emily Lucy Engebor EVANS and Evan Charles EVANS at Byfield St Preston.
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children are : edwin HOGAN 1828,
What is your source of information about Edwin’s birth c1828?
Marriage
V183815422/1838
HOGAN James T
HARDING Lucy
St Phillips, Sydney
Death
JOHANSON Louisa
Father Hogan James Mother Lucy HARDING
At Carlton 79 years 1922 Reg#8334
http://www.gmct.com.au/deceased-search.aspx
JOHANSON Johan Peter 95 years Interred 16 Nov 1925 at Fawkner MET*C***3249
JOHANSON Louisa 79 years Interred 31 Jul 1922 at Fawkner MET*C***3249
Another son?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wkx/
Death of a dau of the late James Harding HOGAN
14992/1902
HOGAN Magdalena F
Father James H Mother Eva
District Newtown
Births
13114/1872
HOGAN Matilda
Father James Mother Eva
District Mudgee
14413/1874
HOGAN Magdalena
Father James Mother Eva
District Mudgee
Death
11981/1885
HOGAN James H
Father James Died Mudgee
District Mudgee
Cando
Edit x 2- ? wrong family. Son of James HOGAN, sculptor and Christian HARDING, born Bristol c1827. However a couple of online trees state that he was the son of James HOGAN who married Lucy HARDING in 1838, his first wife being an Elizabeth who died in 1832 in England. I have transcribed the death info from a copy of the original death certificate.
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Re those Mudgee NSW registered 1870s births found by Cando
NSW ER 1870 MUDGEE
All below are surnamed HOGAN
William, freehold, Mudgee River
John, freehold, Hargraves
James, residence, of Oakey Creek near Hargraves,
Patrick, residence of Merrendee
John, junior, residence of Hargraves
Thomas, residence, of Merrendee
Timothy, residence of Merrendee
NSW ER 1878 MUDGEE
All surnamed HOGAN
Thomas, residence, Merrendee
Daniel, residence, Home Rule
Patrick, residence, Home Rule
James, residence, Wollar
James, residence, Avisford
John, residence, Merrendee
Matthew, residence, Gulgong
Patrick, freehold, Merrende
John, residence, Canadian
John, residence, Gulgong
Edit, to remove S issues ;D
Cheers, JM
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCD-M3F
Emma Harding HOGAN, dau of James Thomas HOGAN and Lucy ;D
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCF-KTT Matilda Harding HOGAN, gives Houghton as Christening place ;D
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCF-KT1 Eliza Harding HOGAN, Houghton as Christening place, may well be different location from birth place, born 1841, Christening 1847
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCF-KYS Louisa Harding HOGAN, like the others, middle name of Harding
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCF-KY7 Henry Harding HOGAN, like the others, Christening 1847
I did not find parish transcriptions at family search for Ann or for Walter :) I notice the NSW BDM has Ann and Walter's ECRs in vol 56. So, perhaps the family had moved from Houghton.
NSW to James T and Lucy/Luce - these would be from parish records
V18362555 32A/1836 HOGAN Emma H
V1836627 20/1836 HOGAN Emma H
V18382556 32A/1838 HOGAN Matilda H
V18412557 32A/1841 HOGAN Eliza H
V18432558 32A/1843 HOGAN Louisa H
V18452559 32A/1845 HOGAN Henry H
V1848196 56/1848 HOGAN Ann M
V1850197 56/1850 HOGAN Walter H
Marriages in Victoria
HOGAN Eliza Harding born Sydney
OLIVER James Phillips born England
1870 Reg# 1052
HOGAN Emma Harding born Sydney
WEBB William born England
1877 Reg# 2491
JOHANSON Johan Peter born Sweden
HOBDAY Louisa born Sydney
1882 Reg#2025
Birth
JOHANSON Emily Lucy Ingeb
Father Johan Peter Mother Louisa Harding HOGAN
At DA RL 1885 Reg#2058
JOHANSON Lillian Christin
Father Peter Johan Mother Louisa HOGAN
At Melbourne 1887 Reg#21661
Can you type up the names of the children living and deceased on Lucy's death certificate please.
If any of the children died before civil registration commenced in NSW it is quite possible there will be no record.
Cando
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;D Houghton is the PARISH, and Paterson would be the nearest township .... Shhhhhhhh I had forgotten and had to use Mr Geggle, I suppose ummm .... well at least I knew where to find the answer. I searched for Durham ;D
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley/2007-02/1170416427
Cheers, JM
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many thanks for the information, would never have found all that, my gg grandfather was henry harding hogan, tumut n.s.w. James t hogan came to australia with his 3 kids to elizabeth harding, then married lucy harding & had 7 more, they certainly moved around a lot, cheers.
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCY-N42
The HOGAN/HARDING marriage 1838
Cando
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thanks cando, i found on trove that his son walter harding hogan - mary louise brooker, were married in the same church in the 1882, the church is still there, i will have look when next in sydney, cheers.
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Transcription of baptisms from an image of the register - all on the same day
Westminster, St Marylebone Christ Church
1832
Nov 17 James Harding HOGAN Parents James [Plasterer] and Elizabeth of 17 Salisbury Street
DOB 3 Mar 1827
Nov 17 Edwin Harding HOGAN " " " "
DOB 17 Dec 1828
Nov 17 Elizabeth Harding HOGAN " " " "
DOB 16 Jan 1831
If you would like these records please pm an email address.
Cheers
Cando
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thanks cando, i found on trove that his son walter harding hogan - mary louise brooker, were married in the same church in the 1882, the church is still there, i will have look when next in sydney, cheers.
On the thread :)
862/1882
HOGAN Walter H
BROOKER Mary Louisa
District Sydney
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wku/
Sydney Morning Herald 24 Jun 1883
Marriages
HOGAN-BROOKER.-June 14, at St. Philip's Church, Sydney, by the Rev. Robert McKeown, Walter Harding Hogan, of Sydney, to Mary Louisa, youngest daughter of the late James Brooker, Esq., of Fairy Meadow, Wollongong, New South Wales.
Cando
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cando, in regards to edwin's 1828 birth date, it is on australian royalty, but also as edward on unassisted passenger list (ship curler, if i recall correctly) he was one of james t's first three to elizabeth harding.