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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: sigmund on Tuesday 22 October 13 20:10 BST (UK)
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I have come to a brick wall, but I understand that there is a possibility that the Protestation Records might help for the 1600's. Is anyone familiar with these records and whether they would be likely to help? I am trying to find the parents of my ancestor Thomas Dixon who was baptised in 1703 at Bishop Thornton in the parish of Ripon. He later married Ann Lewty on 8 September 1725 at Ripley Parish Church.
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I had a quick look and as I see it the Protestation Records relate to 1641/42 if my understanding is right which I would say is a bit early for your 1703 baptism.
How do you know the baptism was in 1703 ?
There is a marriage of a Thomas Dixon and Anne Terry in Ripon in 1699 but no way of telling if that relates to your Thomas Dixon.
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Thank you for your reply.
The baptism is mentioned in IGI. They had four children that I am aware of Thomas Dixon bap 27/9/1726, William Dixon bap 7/12/1729, John Dixon bap 11/05/1731 and Robert Dixon bap 26/2/1735 - all at Burnt Yates where Anne Lewty came from.
Where did you obtain the information about the marriage of a Thomas Dixon and Anne Terry in Ripon in 1699?
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Hmm I must have missed it on the IGI - will look again (looked again, still don't see it. I'll leave it for now and look tomorrow)
(I have Ripon records but the 1703 baptism that you mention isn't in it. As I understand it Bishop Thornton records don't start until 1816)
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I have looked at the IGI again and I can see the 1725 marriage you mention and the four children baptised thereafter. I still cannot locate the 1703 baptism of Thomas that you mention
From the Ripon registers I can find the marriage of a Thomas Dixon and Anne Terry both of Sharow on 19 May 1699
There is then a baptiem of a daughter Elizabeth to a Thomas Dixon of Sharow on 2 April 1700.
Finally there is a death of a Thomas Dixon, yeoman of Sharrow (sic), on 18 April 1702. Don’t know if this is the Thomas who marries Anne Terry or another one
(I also looked under the name Dickson)
Sharow is just to the east of Ripon, and is 8 miles from Bishop Thornton
I understand that findmypast.co.uk are transcribing Yorkshire parish records to be online next year or shortly thereafter, so if all else fails that is a possible source for the future.
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The Thomas Dixon b 1703 maybe on the old submission webpage that used to be on the old LDS website or another variant of spelling of Dixon in the IGI
Only a maybe
Members of the Latterday saints church have to take their ancestry back 6 generation to re baptize them
The marriage 1725 in Ripley may have been by licence, if so ? there are bond allegation records of intent to marry that give the age of the intended groom and his parish of birth .
In this case Thomas would have been 22 in 1725, = born 1703. Then the LDS members looked around to find marriages of possible parents and baptisms in the parish of birth given on the Bond allegation record.
If they could not find a baptism for Thomas b 1703 ? but there was only one family of Dixon's baptizing siblings ! after a marriage!! in that parish of birth of Thomas given in the bond allegation ! then the LDS member made a record of their own in the LDS submissions naming parents name of the family of Dixon run of sibling baptisms in that parish as parents of Thomas b 1703
As long as Thomas Dixon who married 1725 in Ripley aged 22 (If by licence) was re baptized today was the most important objective of the member of the LDS and the likely parent name secondary
If Thomas Dixon (sr) and Ann Terry marriage 1699 (maybe by licence as well)? Ripon was the parents Maybe this Thomas left a Will/probate naming his son Thomas (Jr) b 1703 in the Will
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This link gives where the parish registers are held for Ripon
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/CBW/WRY/Ripon.html
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Many thanks for all the information that your have so kindly supplied. The Ripley Parish register shows the marriage on '8 September 1725 Thomas Dixon of Thornton in the Parish of Ripon and Anne Lewty of Burnt Yates'. My notes from the IGI show the birth about 1703 of Thomas Dixon in Ripley Yorkshire on Film 457913 and as a second source batch A04028-7 Film 448970. I do not understand why, however, that since Family Search has changed its web site I can now no longer access these sources.
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Thanks for sharing the film and batch numbers, I have been playing around with them but cannot get any results either. very strange
It is possible to email familysearch give them the film numbers and ask why you can no longer find them on the search facility
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Its as I suspected as a submission from a LDS member doing his/her family tree of 6 generation back.
Sometimes they are right other times very iffy!
Myself I only use actual records info from the time Ie:- in this case 1703-1725 etc from PR's, BT's, bond allegations marriage intent records, Wills/probate, overseers records, parish chest and others etc. Workhouses sometimes had birth & burial/death records aswell
Hope it helps
Dobby :)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MN2F-WWG?view=basic
Use this link for a general submission search Family search
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi
Use this link to search submitted family trees on family search
https://familysearch.org/family-trees
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Thank you so much for all your work. It was most interesting. I will have to see if I can discover anything before his marriage on 8 September 1725 recorded in the Ripley Parish Records. Any suggestions of the best place to look would be most helpful - unfortunately I live too far away from Yorkshire to actually visit the North Yorkshire archives. Where did you find the information about the marriage of Thomas Dixon and Anne Terry in 1699? It might be worthwhile to see if I can establish a connection.
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A possible ???
Kirby Hill parish registers
The place:
Also known as Kirby on the Moor, this is a parish in the wapentake of Hallikeld;
1 mile from Boroughbridge, 5 from Ripon, 18 from York. Population 190.
The Church is a vicarage, dedicated to All Saints, in the deanery of Boroughbridge, diocese of Chester
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/CBW/NRY/Kirbyhill.html
Baptized
Thomas Dixson
27 April 1705
KIRBY HILL BY BOROUGHBRIDGE,YORK,ENGLAND
father William Dixson
Parish Council
Kirby Hill & District Parish Council represents 525 electors in the combined parishes of Kirby Hill, Milby,
Ellenthorpe, Humberton and Thornton Bridge. The parish is in Newby Ward of Harrogate District Council.
The county council is North Yorkshire
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BU01HYIa0oMJ:www.gobbkh2.f2s.com/KirbyHill/parish.htm+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
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Parents
William Dixon X Sarah Abbey
marriage
15 May 1701
Kirby Hill By Boroughbridge,York,England
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Unfortunately it looks like a false trail. Thomas Dixson who was christened on 27 April 1705 at Kirby Hill also appears as Thomas Dixon (father William Dixon) who was buried on 27 April 1705 at Kirby Hill (IGI Batch I04240-3 film 1849349) - so it looks like a still birth.
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Hi
Well least one Thomas baptism to eliminate!